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Post by wildstubby on Aug 11, 2016 17:22:19 GMT -5
steverusso said:
The assertion that he implied bumping off Hillary is equally outrageous!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 21:48:41 GMT -5
Steve, I doubt you would be making those tortured excuses for the father if he was sitting at a Teump dais. Where do you think his son learned his hate? Read some of the sh!t the father has said. I think I would have said the same. The RNC has made a huge mistake letting him in. But coming from an overall antigay party (even though not all Republicans are homophobic), I think it would have taken other proportions. It is clear the Democrats didn't make him come on purpose. With the Reps, the question would have been raised. Even if honestly I believe most of Republicans are too decent to dare to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 21:52:11 GMT -5
steverusso said: The assertion that he implied bumping off Hillary is equally outrageous! Really? But thats what he did and what the audience during the meeting understood. I even saw an interview of one of the people that we can see behind Trump, saying he couldn't believe what Trump just said. A decent Southern Republican folk. It was very clear to everybody except to Trump poliitical advisors.
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 11, 2016 21:55:27 GMT -5
Even the Secret Service got a "talk" with D. Trump after is insane comment about the "2nd amendment people". It's not being liberal, it's about human decency. No, sorry, it's about democracy. You just cannot, in a democratic country, and I believe the USA is probably the best democracy out there, you cannot even joke about the assassination of your political opponent. You're not in an African country! There is no doubt about what he meant. If you look at the crowd during his speech, some are laughing at the "joke", others are just left incredulous. People got the message. And all this crap about him being a straight shooter. Look at him. He joked about getting H. Clinton killed, and then cannot stand for his words. He has to make the biggest lie about the NRA being a political force. That's what he said: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day." OK, so he's mentioning picking up judges, something she would do AFTER she get elected. So it's not, as he tried to explain later, about "2nd amendment people" (btw what an insult for sensible people in favor of the 2nd amendment to be included in this farce) massively voting against Hillary, it's about, and this will be "a horrible day", to get rid of H. Clinton, or the newly appointed judges. This horrible day comment of course hit the nail down. Because if he was talking about a political action, why would it be a horrible day? I'll tell you what, guys, I am, by American Standards, what would be a moderate republican. Not a Fox News Republican but still. D. Trump is hurting the republican party more than you can imagine. He's actually hurting democracy so bad. This man is a danger for democracy. If you're fed up by the political bipolar system, vote for independents. This thread started with these alternatives, like the Libertarians. These are valid alternatives. But D. Trump, please. This is not even more a joke. This is a dangerous threat to US democracy and the US as a whole. Secret Servce came out today and stated they Did Not contact or talk to Trump or his people.
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 11, 2016 22:01:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 22:03:52 GMT -5
BTW, did he release his tax statement? Oh wait, no he didn't? First presidential candidate refusing to release it since 30 years or so. You know why? Because tax wise, he's so poor. Probably much poorer than he really is. About his real fortune, serious media evaluate it to a 40% of what he's bragging he has. And anyway, when you father leaves you 30 to 40 millions (not 1 as he likes to say), well, that's already a good kickstart right. And what's even funnier, his business performed worse than the stock exchange. In other words, if Trump would simply have invested his money in index funds, he would be richer today. What a businessman. www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/03/trumps-false-claim-he-built-his-empire-with-a-small-loan-from-his-father/www.moneytalksnews.com/why-youre-probably-better-investing-than-donald-trump/Serious media? Your sources? Jaja. What do they know anyway, post some proof. Even if true, he is still worth $5 billion. Much much more than financial wizzes such as yourself. And even if his Dad had left him $40 million, which is not true, he still made $10 billion on his own. Most kids whose father leave them $1 million or $40 million, usually burn through it in a few years, not increase their inheritance by a factor 10,000. Not bad for such a lousy business man. Again, you are right, taking bribes from murdurous dictators and Wall st cheats, like the Clintons do, is a much more profitable business model. I think Fortune magazine is a seriious media. I didn't mention alternative media like TYT who claim his real fortune is a tenth of what he says he has.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 22:25:00 GMT -5
Even the Secret Service got a "talk" with D. Trump after is insane comment about the "2nd amendment people". It's not being liberal, it's about human decency. No, sorry, it's about democracy. You just cannot, in a democratic country, and I believe the USA is probably the best democracy out there, you cannot even joke about the assassination of your political opponent. You're not in an African country! There is no doubt about what he meant. If you look at the crowd during his speech, some are laughing at the "joke", others are just left incredulous. People got the message. And all this crap about him being a straight shooter. Look at him. He joked about getting H. Clinton killed, and then cannot stand for his words. He has to make the biggest lie about the NRA being a political force. That's what he said: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day." OK, so he's mentioning picking up judges, something she would do AFTER she get elected. So it's not, as he tried to explain later, about "2nd amendment people" (btw what an insult for sensible people in favor of the 2nd amendment to be included in this farce) massively voting against Hillary, it's about, and this will be "a horrible day", to get rid of H. Clinton, or the newly appointed judges. This horrible day comment of course hit the nail down. Because if he was talking about a political action, why would it be a horrible day? I'll tell you what, guys, I am, by American Standards, what would be a moderate republican. Not a Fox News Republican but still. D. Trump is hurting the republican party more than you can imagine. He's actually hurting democracy so bad. This man is a danger for democracy. If you're fed up by the political bipolar system, vote for independents. This thread started with these alternatives, like the Libertarians. These are valid alternatives. But D. Trump, please. This is not even more a joke. This is a dangerous threat to US democracy and the US as a whole. Secret Servce came out today and stated they Did Not contact or talk to Trump or his people. Sorry it's not the case. Here is the actual Reuters news statement: "A federal official on Wednesday said the U.S. Secret Service had not formally spoken with Republican Donald Trump's presidential campaign regarding his suggestion a day earlier that gun rights activists could stop Democratic rival Hillary Clinton from curtailing their access to firearms"www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-secretservice-idUSKCN10L29WAccording to Time magazine: "“Those statements did not come from our public affairs office,” said Joseph Casey, a spokesperson for the Secret Service. He added he could not confirm the Secret Service reached out to the Trump campaign."time.com/4447144/donald-trump-second-amendment-people-secret-service/And the initial CNN statement: "A US Secret Service official confirms to CNN that the USSS has spoken to the Trump campaign regarding his Second Amendment comments.
"There has been more than one conversation" on the topic, the official told CNN. But it's unclear at what level"
edition.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/trump-second-amendment/index.htmlIn other words, a Secret Service official said to CNN there has been conversation with either Trump himself of his staff, and then the spokeperson for the Secret Service said it was not an official statement. And finally a "Federal official" said the Secret Serive had not formally spoken with Trump's campaign. What's formally speaking to someone, btw? Secret Service do ever formally speak? I mean, if it's secret, it cannot be formal, right? What a joke. Of course Trump made another lie, and twitted: "No such meeting or conversation ever happened - a made up story by "low ratings" @cnn.".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 22:31:52 GMT -5
Citing Wikipedia " Secret Service protection for Obama began after the Senator received a death threat in 2007, while serving as the junior Senator of Illinois and running for president. This marked the earliest time a candidate received such protection before being nominated.[1] Security was increased early for Barack Obama due to fears of possible assassination attempts by white supremacist or other racist groups or individuals against the first African American major party presidential nominee." That's why. H. Clinton was afraid to see Obama assassinated and leave the elections to the Republicans. That was, a horrible comment from H. Clinton. Totally classless. But unlike D. Trump, she didn't call for murder.
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Post by billyb on Aug 12, 2016 15:25:05 GMT -5
Serious media? Your sources? Jaja. What do they know anyway, post some proof. Even if true, he is still worth $5 billion. Much much more than financial wizzes such as yourself. And even if his Dad had left him $40 million, which is not true, he still made $10 billion on his own. Most kids whose father leave them $1 million or $40 million, usually burn through it in a few years, not increase their inheritance by a factor 10,000. Not bad for such a lousy business man. Again, you are right, taking bribes from murdurous dictators and Wall st cheats, like the Clintons do, is a much more profitable business model. I think Fortune magazine is a seriious media. I didn't mention alternative media like TYT who claim his real fortune is a tenth of what he says he has. Where is the proof? And like I said, even if you were telling the truth, you still have not addressed my points above, which still stand. You go on about how much better he would have investing in yada yada yada. Means you have done that much better doing the same. Where is a picture of the jet with "Russo" on the fuselage? Taking bribes, most profitable business model there is.
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 12, 2016 18:12:26 GMT -5
jajajajajajaja Here we have a IT frenchman working in Colombia talking about a person that has already spent over 50 million of his own money and also said he would donate his pres salary to a charity.
I dont care if Trump is worth 5bil or 10 bil he has made a success in his life from his own company. Unlike hillary who has made her money off the backs of tax payers and being corrupt.
Now for Trumps tax returns if there was a problem with the IRS they would have been all over him if the IRS even had a little problem, it is a non issue at this time.Maybe hillary and Bill Clinton will open their books to the Clinton Foudation for full discloser since she is such a honest person
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Post by billyb on Aug 12, 2016 19:02:07 GMT -5
Sh!t is already coming out on her books. Seems like she had top aides like Humma and Valerie pulling double duty for the Clinton foundation while on State Dep payroll. Big no no, but will we hear Steve tell us about because he read it on one of his sites? Doubt it. Media will give her a pass. As cooky as the Donald sometimes comes off. I prefer cooky people to people who are corrupt and thieves. Anyway, it might make our enemies think twice about crossing him. Obama has comitted the cardinal sin any leader can make. He has not instilled fear of in his enemies. Our friends don't trust him, and our enemies think he is a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 19:57:15 GMT -5
I think Fortune magazine is a seriious media. I didn't mention alternative media like TYT who claim his real fortune is a tenth of what he says he has. Where is the proof? And like I said, even if you were telling the truth, you still have not addressed my points above, which still stand. You go on about how much better he would have investing in yada yada yada. Means you have done that much better doing the same. Where is a picture of the jet with "Russo" on the fuselage? Taking bribes, most profitable business model there is. I know you're trying hard to make the debate shift to H. Clinton. But I'm not interested in this debate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 20:00:57 GMT -5
jajajajajajaja Here we have a IT frenchman working in Colombia talking about a person that has already spent over 50 million of his own money and also said he would donate his pres salary to a charity. I dont care if Trump is worth 5bil or 10 bil he has made a success in his life from his own company. Unlike hillary who has made her money off the backs of tax payers and being corrupt. Now for Trumps tax returns if there was a problem with the IRS they would have been all over him if the IRS even had a little problem, it is a non issue at this time.Maybe hillary and Bill Clinton will open their books to the Clinton Foudation for full discloser since she is such a honest person I don't care either about his wealth. It just shows he's justa bullsh*t artist. He's a flip flopper. Just happened again right now today. He now says, after declaring for two days, that Obama was the founder of ISIS, that people don't understand sarcasm. This man is simply not fit to be the President of the USA.
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 12, 2016 21:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by billyb on Aug 12, 2016 21:57:01 GMT -5
Where is the proof? And like I said, even if you were telling the truth, you still have not addressed my points above, which still stand. You go on about how much better he would have investing in yada yada yada. Means you have done that much better doing the same. Where is a picture of the jet with "Russo" on the fuselage? Taking bribes, most profitable business model there is. I know you're trying hard to make the debate shift to H. Clinton. But I'm not interested in this debate. I know you are not. Because you wouldn't like where that debate leads you. It isn't one of those 'safe places"..
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 12, 2016 22:16:11 GMT -5
Now, now, billyb. Do not try to bring facts into a political debate. Liberals can't handle them!!!!!
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Post by billyb on Aug 12, 2016 23:59:39 GMT -5
96% of Shillary's charitable contributions went to the Clinton Fraudation. How generous of her. Now she gets to use that money and take a tax break on it on top of it.The mob could take lessons in graft from Shillary.
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 13, 2016 7:29:34 GMT -5
Where is the proof? And like I said, even if you were telling the truth, you still have not addressed my points above, which still stand. You go on about how much better he would have investing in yada yada yada. Means you have done that much better doing the same. Where is a picture of the jet with "Russo" on the fuselage? Taking bribes, most profitable business model there is. I know you're trying hard to make the debate shift to H. Clinton. But I'm not interested in this debate. SR. Thats just what the news media says here. They dont want to talk about how unfit and corrupt Hillary is. Lets keep all the attention on Trump and maybe everyone will forget about the lifetime of political corruption Hillary has been involved in. I have seen a lot of interviews with businessmen in the US and a lot of them back trump. They pretty much all say he is much different than the news media portrays him. While I think he is a flawed candidate i believe Hillary would be a disaster. IMHO Trump is the lesser of 2 evils. But my stance is why vote for the lesser of 2 evils. There are other options that I feel are better qualified than either. I would rather vote for a good candidate and loose than vote for a bad candidate and win. Just because he is better than the other bad option doesn't mean I want him to be president. At least when the country goes to hell I will not have any responsibility in it. But 95% of the news media here is undoubtedly skewing their reporting trying to make Trump look bad and downplay every bad thing that comes out about Hillary. Or even ignore it. The news media in the US looks to be more like an arm of the DNC that unbiased reporters of news.
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 14, 2016 9:28:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 10:54:05 GMT -5
If Trump loses it does not affect him---he has already won in his life---the morons will just further promulgate regulations to the detriment of the country -- and its now 65% Anglo citizen population -- down from 95% 50 years ago -- who originally built the country in to what it was--
Canada will be next with their immigration policies and social welfare system --
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