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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 15:28:36 GMT -5
Hillary Clinton's most idiotic moments
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 7, 2016 15:32:39 GMT -5
CG you said it not me about Trump. I have never heard or seen where he said we need to use the Atomic bomb.
I did see where he said a possible solution to ISIS would be to blow up all of their oil storage places and stop their cash flow.
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Post by livinginmedellin on Aug 7, 2016 15:46:05 GMT -5
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Post by gallito on Aug 7, 2016 16:24:40 GMT -5
First, Hewitt's question: "Mr. Trump, Dr. Carson just referenced the single most important job of the president, the command, the control and the care of our nuclear forces. And he mentioned the triad. The B-52s are older than I am. The missiles are old. The submarines are aging out. It's an executive order. It's a commander-in-chief decision. "What's your priority among our nuclear triad?" No matter how little you know about the makeup of our nuclear forces, it's clear Hewitt is suggesting the technologies we use to deliver a nuclear attack are too old, and asking Trump what his priority would be when it comes to maintaining them. Right? You'd have to be completely ignorant, an utter buffoon with the intelligence of an earthworm the other earthworms make fun of for being dumb not to get the gist of what Hewitt is asking here. And yet. This was Trump's response: "Well, first of all, I think we need somebody absolutely that we can trust, who is totally responsible, who really knows what he or she is doing. That is so powerful and so important." www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trumps-terrifying-nuke-answer-at-the-debate-should-end-his-campaign-but-it-wont-20151216
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Post by gallito on Aug 7, 2016 16:28:02 GMT -5
"Listen to Trump for 30 seconds at any of his rallies and you realize that's the entirety of his thought process. "Make America Great Again" is a perfectly fine slogan if you have a plan to make America great again, but with Trump, the slogan is the entire agenda. There is no plan."
Here Here...his plan is no plan.
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Post by caliconnection on Aug 7, 2016 19:16:14 GMT -5
CG please attache the full comment where Trump said we need to use the Atomic bomb.The Media is hoping all the uninformed voters will take little snippets that have been spun so much they would make a big enough spider web to hold a truck. The Liberterian base has some good ideas and beleifs, to bad Johnson has left the reservation and went to the left politicly. Johnson always seems fiscally conservative whenever I've seen him interviewed. I admit I don't follow US politics too closely though (just the US stock market). Got any links for me Dan?
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Post by caliconnection on Aug 7, 2016 19:23:22 GMT -5
Johnson’s poll numbers have steadily climbed in recent months, as he reached 12% in both a recent FOX News poll and a recent Investor’s Business Daily poll. Both polls were released this week, and each places him within the margin of error of the ever-important 15%. I'm a member of IBD and I saw that poll. Conservatively fiscal and socially liberal - is that the Libertarian party? If so, they would get my vote. I have similar annoyances with the Republicans and Democrats in the US as I do the Conservatives and Liberals in Canada. I tend to vote for someone completely different.
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 7, 2016 19:31:41 GMT -5
CC Yes Libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Believes in a strong defense but doesn't want to be interventionist.
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Post by gallito on Aug 7, 2016 20:21:52 GMT -5
Johnson’s poll numbers have steadily climbed in recent months, as he reached 12% in both a recent FOX News poll and a recent Investor’s Business Daily poll. Both polls were released this week, and each places him within the margin of error of the ever-important 15%. I'm a member of IBD and I saw that poll. Conservatively fiscal and socially liberal - is that the Libertarian party? If so, they would get my vote. I have similar annoyances with the Republicans and Democrats in the US as I do the Conservatives and Liberals in Canada. I tend to vote for someone completely different. IBD, pretty much describes most politicians = Inflammatory Bowel Disease
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 8, 2016 7:09:53 GMT -5
LIM I will say the same thing to you Were is the full conversation from Trump..I am not talking where the liberal media take a few words out of a conversation and put there spin on it. I am not talking about info that was given to the media by a no name person.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 18:16:43 GMT -5
Little that I know about politics, I'm all for isolationism and people tell me it well never work, not in this day and age. Trump has excellent ideas, stop American companies from leaving, put the people back to work, stop American companies looking for greener pastures because of expensive environmental regulations, give them tax breaks to make the company profitable. Stop Mexicans from sending their hard earned money home which amounts into billions, keep the money in the country instead of boosting economies of other countries who despise Americans. What I don't understand is why Trump is acting like a moron, lacking any diplomacy and turning the entire media worldwide against him. He either has terrible advisors or he doesn't listen to them.
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 8, 2016 18:50:37 GMT -5
CG People are fed up with 2 face Politicians Diplomacy.Screw Diplomacy and Political Correctness when the media writes what he says and not spin it many people do agree.Trump is correct about Illegals and Musilims in everything he said and how.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 22:08:29 GMT -5
As a businessman he makes things happen-- good businessmen due not make excuses--say it like it is--and have little patience for double talkers (con men) which also equates to politicians---most have never had their own business in life --- so do not comprehend the B.S. and frustrations involved--
From day one all the political experts(hacks)said he would fail--yet he won against a well rounded field of political operatives
The media / the world's embedded politicos /globalists are afraid of anyone who might jeopardise their view of a one world order--and their power by non elected decrees of Brussels--or a voting block of morons--as those who elected Chavez--etc
On another note--one can not name one country which became first world due to multiculturalism / diversity--and the reason why all 3rd world countries are still 3rd world and will remain so / and the very reason why the U.S is becoming 3rd world with their immigration policies of the last 50 years-- which was then 95% Anglo and now 65% Anglo---or the downfall of Europe witnessed today
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 22:24:51 GMT -5
Business wise, what Trump made happen, is 6 bankruptcies. He even succeeded in bankrupting The Taj Mahal and the Trump Plaza. Casinos!! A place where, mathematically, the owner MUST make money.
Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991 Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel NY, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004 Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009
What a businessman!!
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Post by gallito on Aug 8, 2016 22:41:00 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 9, 2016 8:59:00 GMT -5
Hosts of Presidential Debates Advised to Prepare 3rd Podium Breaking from Politico Tuesday morning is the news that the Commission on Presidential Debates is advising debate host sites to prepare with a third podium. Commission on Presidential Debates co-chair Mike McCurry stated: With Gary Johnson polling in some places more than double digits, they might have, some of our production people may have said, ‘Just in case, you need to plan out what that might look like.’ We won’t know the number of invitations we extend until mid-September. Johnson has made qualifying for the debates a central part of his early campaign, often admitting that if he cannot make the debates, he will not have an opportunity to win the presidency. Though Johnson’s lawsuit challenging the Commission on its criteria failed, he still has the ability to succeed by achieving 15% in the polls. Unlike in 2012, the preliminary issue of Johnson not being included in polls has been very minimized. In fact, Johnson has been consistently included as an option, often garnering above 10%. The newest poll, released by NBC News this morning, has Johnson at 10%. With the Commission suggesting that it is willing to offer some “wiggle room” on its 15% requirement, it will be a close call either way. Johnson would be the first third-party candidate since Ross Perot in 1992 to be included in the presidential debates. As shown by that campaign, the ability to appear in the discussions offers publicity and legitimacy in a way which other methods of promotion simply cannot. In this election in particular, many Americans remain on the lookout for a third option. This is in large part because of massive distaste for both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. More importantly, numerous prominent Republicans (and some Democrats) have suggested that they are unable to support either Trump or Clinton. A few solid and prominent endorsements could do wonders for the Johnson campaign in helping it accomplish name-recognition and importance in the campaign. Johnson and running-mate William Weld have a very good sales-pitch for not just libertarians, but Americans of all political persuasions. They are the first dual-governor ticket advanced by any party since 1948, and everyday, they move closer to their final goal of ballot access in all 50 states. In their libertarian positions, they are seen by many as a “moderate” selection in an otherwise polarized political climate. The ticket has also been able raise funds at a rate previously unseen by Libertarians. This is in large part due to Weld’s extensive experience fundraising in prior campaigns. The ticket has also enjoyed exposure thanks to events like the two town halls hosted by CNN. Each event garnered hundreds of thousands of viewers, with the latter drawing as many as 1.6 million people. As a third-party, name identification is one of the most important preliminary hurdles before being taken seriously as a presidential option. The 2016 campaign has been one of the most interesting and unorthodox elections in recent American history. Many Americans feel left out with the selection of the two major-party nominees. Party labels like “Republican” and “Democrat” are radically shifting, while so many voters are attempting to navigate the nuance of electoral politics. Now, with the Commission on Presidential Debates seemingly preparing for the prospect of a third participant in the presidential debates, the election could become even more historic. More importantly, it could provide Americans with a reasonable and plausible third option when they head to the polls in November. The ultimate result is yet to be known, but the newest developments seem promising for both Libertarians and the American people as a whole. thelibertarianrepublic.com/debates-hosts-advised-prepare-podium/#ixzz4GqKPzcYP Fox has just announced a Town Hall with Johnson/Weld the end of August.
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Post by flynnflanagan on Aug 9, 2016 9:11:30 GMT -5
I know that this is not PC but my take is that a lot of Americans would never vote for a woman for Prez. Many of them don't like Trump so the 3rd party gets their votes. There's more to it than this, but I'll keep it short.
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 9, 2016 9:26:48 GMT -5
Johnson even if he gets in the debates needs to go viral to beat the opinion most have of D or R. But it can happen. Look at Bernie. He came from out on nowhere. ------------------------ Johnson Is Second Among Independents, Above Trump Gary Johnson has surged in Utah, according to a new poll put out by UtahPolicy.com. The poll was conducted over two weeks and surveyed 858 likely Utah voters. The poll found that Johnson is at 16 percent, up from 10 percent in June. Trump leads with 37 percent while Clinton is second with 25 percent. Green Party nominee Jill Stein receives 1 percent, down from her 2 percent in June. Fourteen percent of voters support another candidate, while seven percent remain undecided. The former New Mexico Governor did much better among independents than Donald Trump, with the poll finding that twenty-eight percent of independents plan to vote for him, while only twenty percent plan to vote for Trump. This marks a thirteen percent increase since the June poll. The poll also found that Utah Democrats are lining up behind Clinton and most Utah Republicans are voting for Trump. Jill Stein only has 3 percent of Utah Democrats and independents behind her. Another survey conducted last month saw that Gary Johnson was in a statistical tie with Clinton and Trump in Utah’s 24th Congressional District. Read more: thelibertarianrepublic.com/gary-johnson-surges-utah/#ixzz4GqUjLiTa Follow us: @thelibrepublic on Twitter
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Post by billyb on Aug 9, 2016 9:32:20 GMT -5
Business wise, what Trump made happen, is 6 bankruptcies. He even succeeded in bankrupting The Taj Mahal and the Trump Plaza. Casinos!! A place where, mathematically, the owner MUST make money. Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991 Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel NY, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004 Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009 What a businessman!! Actually, if you know AC, you know that most casinos there have or are closing. The place is dying. Indian casinos nearer to population centers in the North East, and you don't have to go to that dump called Atlantic City (think Detroit, with the Boardwalk). Nobody is making money there. But little facts like that don't matter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 9:54:37 GMT -5
Traditionally the great majority of Americans voted for either the Democrats or the Republicans. It would be a miracle if a third party would win. But if it's at all possible, 2016 would be the year that will go down in history.
Germany is facing a similar problem next year. Many Germans are sick and tired of the two leading parties, especially after the fallout after the importation of Muslims who are not interested in integrating into German society, dah, what a surprise, how gullible can German liberals be? A third right leaning party is getting extremely popular now but it doesn't look like they will get enough votes to win, mainly because of the liberal media condemning them every chance they get. But a lot of water will flow down the creek until next spring, a few massive atrocities committed by radical Muslims who had no problem entering the country with the waves of uncontrolled fugitives might just get the third party enough votes.
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Post by livinginmedellin on Aug 9, 2016 10:12:48 GMT -5
Business wise, what Trump made happen, is 6 bankruptcies. He even succeeded in bankrupting The Taj Mahal and the Trump Plaza. Casinos!! A place where, mathematically, the owner MUST make money. Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991 Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel NY, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004 Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009 What a businessman!! Trump was the only public casino operator that had negative stock returns from 1995 to 2005 - see chart in this: winteryknight.com/2016/03/07/how-well-did-donald-trump-do-in-the-hotel-and-casino-business/ - down 89% compared to Harrah's up 140% or MGM up 430% during the same time-frame. While his ordinary investors were getting hosed, Trump himself was siphoning millions out of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts through salary, “bonuses” and cozy “service agreements” or side deals with his private corporations. What a businessman!
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 9, 2016 10:31:41 GMT -5
Its called playing the system. But its the system the current politicians put in place. He was playing the game by the rules they made. Its funny that all the politicians loved to have photo ops with him and they thought he was a great guy till he threatened the status quo. I am no fan of trump but most of this stuff is media hype and sucking up to Clinton. I actually see her as worse than Trump if that's possible.
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Post by billyb on Aug 9, 2016 11:06:15 GMT -5
Business wise, what Trump made happen, is 6 bankruptcies. He even succeeded in bankrupting The Taj Mahal and the Trump Plaza. Casinos!! A place where, mathematically, the owner MUST make money. Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991 Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992 Trump was the only public casino operator that had negative stock returns from 1995 to 2005 - see chart in this: winteryknight.com/2016/03/07/how-well-did-donald-trump-do-in-the-hotel-and-casino-business/ - down 89% compared to Harrah's up 140% or MGM up 430% during the same time-frame. While his ordinary investors were getting hosed, Trump himself was siphoning millions out of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts through salary, “bonuses” and cozy “service agreements” or side deals with his private corporations. What a businessman! He should have just taken bribes like the Clintons, a way more profitable business model.
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Post by gallito on Aug 9, 2016 11:29:01 GMT -5
In the dirty war to get to the top neither are squeaky clean.
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Post by dandl93 on Aug 9, 2016 11:36:55 GMT -5
Trump over the years has had 100s of businesses and a small % didnt make it on top of some of the Casinos was using Trumps name for a small % and controlled by another Company.With over 50% of new businesses in the USA failing in the first few years his track record is very good.
So lets take a few more politicians on how they made their money...
Romney...Buys up under funded or close to bankrupt compaies 10 cents on the $ Strips them fires all the people.Bain Finacial
Hillary and Bill Clinton Takes in donations Billions of $ for needy counties (Haite) spends 90% for costs to their pockets and gives 10% to the needy.Bill Clinton takes 500k for a speaking fee from the Russians a few months later hillary approves thru the State Dept 20% of all USA Uranium old to the Russians ETC etcetc etc.
Harry Reid carrer politician avg 225k per year but is a multi millinaire
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Post by billyb on Aug 9, 2016 11:42:58 GMT -5
Dan, don't confuse them with logic and facts. The "narrative" is all that matters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 11:49:12 GMT -5
Its called playing the system. But its the system the current politicians put in place. He was playing the game by the rules they made. Its funny that all the politicians loved to have photo ops with him and they thought he was a great guy till he threatened the status quo. I am no fan of trump but most of this stuff is media hype and sucking up to Clinton. I actually see her as worse than Trump if that's possible. Filing for bankruptcy has a lot of consequences, because you basically don't pay what you owe anymore. That's not a business model. And certainly not from someone claiming to put the workers first.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 11:51:23 GMT -5
Business wise, what Trump made happen, is 6 bankruptcies. He even succeeded in bankrupting The Taj Mahal and the Trump Plaza. Casinos!! A place where, mathematically, the owner MUST make money. Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991 Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel NY, 1992 Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004 Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009 What a businessman!! Actually, if you know AC, you know that most casinos there have or are closing. The place is dying. Indian casinos nearer to population centers in the North East, and you don't have to go to that dump called Atlantic City (think Detroit, with the Boardwalk). Nobody is making money thers. But little facts like that don't matter. The thing is, while Trump casinos were going bankrupt, the other casinos from AC were still doing good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 11:52:20 GMT -5
Bribes are illegal--
Bankruptcy is not a tax loophole -- Bankruptcy is a legal entity-----found in various statutes and the U.S tax code for over a 100 years--
Many U.S municipalities have declared bankruptcies over the years--losing a lot more of taxpayers dollars than trump's business losses--
As 99% of people / workers have never been involved in a business--let alone a family business -- or involved in a bankruptcy or two / an IRS audit-- it is very easy to condemn the system as crooked--
The stock market is a grand casino in itself--1 wins and 100 lose--hedge funds the same---wonder why the majority do not call for calling the stock market a tax loophole--
If one buys a used car and gets stiffed with a bad transmission--it is called the free enterprise system--buyer beware---
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Post by flynnflanagan on Aug 9, 2016 11:53:23 GMT -5
Hilliam took , what 645 K from a wall street firm for giving a seminar? Who actually attended the seminar? The janitor?
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