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Post by vikingo on Nov 9, 2022 8:19:25 GMT -5
It looks like Republicans are gaining the House but not the Senate. What Republican gained with the failing economy they lost with abortion laws. Abortion issues should have been modified instead of prohibiting it all-together. Absolutely ridiculous to expect a woman to raise a child after some low-life raped her, or carrying out a down-syndrome child no matter what the bible says.
Any comments?
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 9, 2022 21:13:01 GMT -5
Comment: If you are a woman and you don't want a child then don't spread your legs to make one! Rape and danger exempted!
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Post by vikingo on Nov 10, 2022 3:39:56 GMT -5
Republicans are their own worst enemies. Instead of letting inflation and the economy speak for itself which would have assured them majority in the senate, they had to run on abortion and immigration, too, with a large portion of the voting population being fairly recent immigrants (Latinos stick together, no matter what country they hail from, they don't want to be counted a minority)
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 10, 2022 6:22:36 GMT -5
vikingo said: I know it has been a long time since you lived in this country and I know your daughter lives here as well. However, it was the US Supreme Court which put the specter of abortion front and center when it rescinded Roe vs. Wade. That decision didn't outlaw abortion, it gave the right to the states to determine the rules/regulations about it. The misunderstood thing here is that abortion is not a right! Nowhere in the US Constitution is there an amendment that addresses it. It is an issue that divides the nation damn near straight down the middle. There are things that bother me a lot about abortion other than 'the time of conception.' A school nurse needs both parent's signatures to give a student, in this case a girl an aspirin. But yet she can get abortion without parental notification. I could come up with a laundry list of other things like this other than the typical spiritual reasons. Let's get to the second part of your statement. The Latino population here is fed up with the lack of immigration control and being taken for granted by the democratic party. Nowhere is this more pronounced than Miami Dade County in FL. Naturally I associate with Latinos here and I ask them about the immigration issue. 99.9% state that immigrants should come here through the same venue most of them went through. Stand in line, wait your turn, pay your fees! They also are smarter than most minorities because they can see they are being manipulated by the democrats by keeping them 'on the dole'. I think there were more Latinos that voted republican than when Trump ran in 2016 and that is a 'brown wave' that is building.
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Post by vikingo on Nov 10, 2022 8:19:42 GMT -5
Well, I've got it wrong. I would like to hear though what prevented the Republican land slide after the Democrats drove the country against the wall? Was it Trump getting involved against all odds after the Democrats and the liberal media did their best to destroy him? Or did he destroy himself?
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 10, 2022 10:04:09 GMT -5
Mitch McConnell withheld funding from MAGA candidates in the general election and spent millions in the primaries supporting in party neocons against MAGA candidates. He would rather stay minority leader than let populist into the senate. Masters in AZ is still too close to call and McConnell pulled millions of funding from him, while dumping millions into the Alaska for Murkowskisky against another Republican.
Lindsey Graham was intentionally trying to bring out the Dem vote by proposing an abortion ban if they took the house and senate right before the election, when there is no chance it could be done without the White House even if they had a majority in the House and Senate.
The entrenched power in the Republican Party is one of the biggest hurtles.
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Post by vikingo on Nov 10, 2022 11:54:41 GMT -5
Yeah, too much discord in the Republican Party. I'm ready to call Mitch McConnel a RINO, too, apart from Lisa Murkowsky and Susan Collins. Lindsey Graham though was always a MAGA man. Maybe he wanted to appeal to the large Christian community in the Republican Party to not miss their vote and it backfired.
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Post by vikingo on Nov 10, 2022 12:09:03 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Nov 10, 2022 18:55:49 GMT -5
I understand the Republicans need 2 more seats to gain the Senate, 2 of the 3 that are still in limbo. Alaska seems to be a sure thing and in Nevada they are ahead by almost 2%, with 83% of the votes counted. Nevada will be the decisive vote, am I correct? What effect will the Georgia runoff have on the Senate with hardly a chance that the Republican wins?
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 10, 2022 19:10:50 GMT -5
Really the senate doesnt matter. They would never have enough votes to override a veto so as long as they have the house they can check the democrats.
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 11, 2022 7:37:20 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 12, 2022 8:00:23 GMT -5
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 12, 2022 10:12:01 GMT -5
Eveybody knows it was Trump and the Trump endorsed candidates that caused the mess. (The ones that were financed by the Democratic Party. Seems the tactic worked out well))
Wall Street Journal makes a good case for it. Even Fox news agrees.
Time to throw Trump under the bus. Desantis is a lot more stable, saner candidate.
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 12, 2022 10:19:45 GMT -5
Sorry, I take more credence in the WSJ than this nutter... I really dont think money ghas anything to do with it. Just the fact a Republican candidate was endorsed by Trump and was pushing his platform would be enough to turn off independent voters. Maybe not enough to vote Democrat, but at leat enough not to vote at all.
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 12, 2022 11:24:07 GMT -5
elexpatriado said: It's so easy to do that since it gets in lock-step with the democraps. But what a lot of people fail to recognize is that Mitch McConnell didn't endorse any of the Trump supported candidates and makes him become a defacto Rino. Right now there are plenty of calls not to recognize him as any sort of leadership position in the Senate. Now from my perspective here in PA, Oz was the worse candidate to have as a Senatorial rep. He was carrying too much baggage with him from NJ. I also fault the republican party for not getting out the message sooner on Fetterman, (now Biden's favorite vegetable!). His lackluster accomplishments in Bradock along with living with his parents etc. would have made a difference before the mail-in ballots were available. Mastriano for whatever reason was just unelectable. I talked to other republicans here in NEPA and they said right out they were voting for Shapiro. However you cut it though, PA was decided by Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Scranton and State College with the remainder of the commonwealth entirely red!
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 12, 2022 19:12:10 GMT -5
Eveybody knows it was Trump and the Trump endorsed candidates that caused the mess. (The ones that were financed by the Democratic Party. Seems the tactic worked out well)) Wall Street Journal makes a good case for it. Even Fox news agrees. Time to throw Trump under the bus. Desantis is a lot more stable, saner candidate. Sounds like the Canadian values are rubbing off on you, Elex. Have you been listing to too much Trudeau propaganda? The media will always back the neocon establishment. Most of the republicans in the house and senate could run as a democrat without changing their positions and the majority of issues. I'm ready to say, burn the whole thing down. The media demonizes them and the lemmings follow along nodding their heads. I have as much faith in the media as the politicians they lie for.
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Post by vikingo on Nov 13, 2022 7:26:44 GMT -5
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 13, 2022 7:54:49 GMT -5
vikingo said: I just finished reading that article before I logged on here. It pretty much gives credence to what I wrote previously. Republican politics has this uncanny knack to drift away from the wants and needs of the people and waste all their effort pursuing some insane principle until finally they are voted out by a large majority. The party had the wind at their back when Reagan was in office so much that it carried GHW Bush. Bush screwed the pooch when he declared, "Read my lips, no new taxes!!!!", and proceeded to raise taxes on commercial entities. The democraps seized the hypocrisy and also a stronger independent candidate, ( Ross Perot, who I thought would have won had he not dropped out the first time!), and 'slick Willy' Bill Clinton was brought in. Now if the republicans don't spend so much time licking their wounds and pointing fingers at each other they can gather what little momentum remains and take the whole kit and kaboodle, (White House, Senate, House of Reps.) in 2024. If they, (we meaning me), can't manage to oust a person, who doesn't have the slightest idea where he is, out the White House, along with the dems that hitched their wagon to him, then the party is truly a lost cause!
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Post by vikingo on Nov 13, 2022 11:24:18 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Nov 17, 2022 14:46:50 GMT -5
Republicans won the House, Nancy Pelosi stepping down.
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 17, 2022 20:56:04 GMT -5
Thank God for small favors!
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