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Post by vikingo on Oct 28, 2022 9:01:51 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 28, 2022 9:07:16 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 29, 2022 6:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 29, 2022 6:17:05 GMT -5
Poland's first English-language channel
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Post by vikingo on Oct 29, 2022 6:27:31 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 29, 2022 6:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 29, 2022 20:05:14 GMT -5
Potemkin evacuation is a defeat for the “Russian world” 10/29/2022 |
In southern Ukraine, the occupiers dismantled monuments and took them with them when they retreated.
Prince Potemkin's statue and his remains are already gone. The process is highly symbolic, because Potemkin played a big role when the region became Russian. Serhii Khlan, an adviser to the ousted Ukrainian chief of the Kherson region, posted a photo on his Facebook page of the empty pedestal of the monument to Prince Potemkin (1739-1791), who founded the city in the 18th century and is buried here. Khlan writes: "After Ushakov and Suvorov, Potemkin was also 'evacuated' from Kherson. The only thing left for the Russians is to steal his remains from the cathedral." The Kherson publication “Most” also published a photo of the empty pedestal. In fact, not only the statues of the tsarists generals Suvorov and Ushakov, the Soviet general Margelow (who drove the Wehrmacht from Cherson in 1944 and was ennobled as a hero of the Soviet Union) or the Potemkin monument from Cherson were removed, but also the mortal remains of the city's founder from St. Catherine's Cathedral - because the Ukrainian army is advancing and the battle for the city could also be imminent.
The head of the occupied part of the region, Volodymyr Saldo, who was collaborating with the Russians, announced Potemkin's reburial on the Krim24 television channel.
Also, local Russian authorities claimed on October 24 that they had decided to remove the monuments from Ukraine "due to constant bombing and sabotage." The Russian occupiers are dismantling the cultural assets in Cherson and other towns and are retrieving their cultural and historical heritage from Ukraine.
Or, as they would say, they "evacuate" it.
When you talk to Ukrainians from the south about tsarist heroes like Suvorov, Ushakov or Potemkin, there are voices who say that they were just leftovers from the Soviet Union that they no longer want to see in the city. These ancient heroes stood in public places, but they were actually museum-worthy, banned from the public sphere for they embodied the Russian Empire and its expansion. They stood for the "Russki Mir", for the Russian world and its culture.
For the Russian empire, southern Ukraine was “New Russia”, a place for development and colonization.
Historically, however, this region was anything but undisputed. Before it was incorporated into the Russian Empire under Catherine II, the area of "New Russia" was fought over between Poland-Lithuania, the Ottoman Empire and the Russian Empire for a long time. Until 1774 the region belonged to the Crimean Khanate, i.e. to the Crimean Tatars. Prince Potemkin is known today for the proverbial dummy villages used to simulate advances in civilization for the tsarina (a legend that goes back to envious people) or for the armored cruiser named after him from Eisenstein's classic film. Historically, Potemkin was a central figure in the development of southern Ukraine.
Under Catherine II he rose to become general and supreme administrator of the region.
In 1778 Kherson was founded; Streets, squares and buildings were arranged in a chessboard pattern in accordance with the progressive spirit of the time. Other foundations followed, such as Odessa, Sevastopol, Dnipro, Zaporischschja, Mykolaiv and Mariupol.
For the Russian occupiers, such icons of the Tsarists Empire are now part of their supposed heritage and thus legitimize their claim to southern Ukraine.
On the one hand, the current dismantling of cultural assets in Cherson is tantamount to a defeat of the “Russian world”, i.e. the ideology of the cultural totality of Russian. From a Russian point of view, of course, it is also a desperate attempt to save this past colonial world.
Suvorov, Ushakov or Potemkin are heroes of a Russian empire that wanted to assert itself among the other major European powers and Russified entire regions through deportation. The theft of these cultural assets is a defense of Russia's sovereignty in interpreting history. From Putin's point of view, the historical-cultural power of definition must under no circumstances be left to the victim of this imperialism, which has persisted to this day, Ukraine.
However, Cherson and southern Ukraine were never entirely Russian, but have always been distinguished by their diversity. Already in the 19th century the streets of Cherson were filled with Ukrainian, Jewish, Polish, Moldovan, German, Tatar and Russian.
In August 2012, the city administration announced that 110 nationalities live in Kherson.
The removal of cultural assets in Kherson is just an attempt to get through the "Russian world", to symbolically receive the rescue of their heroes. But southern Ukraine is multi-ethnic.
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Post by vikingo on Oct 30, 2022 7:24:59 GMT -5
Ukrainians unsure of Russia's strategy in Kherson, a province the size of Belgium. Kherson is the gateway to the Crimea. If taken by Ukraine it would be a massive blow to Putin and maybe serious revenge bombing of Kiev and Ukraine's leadership would follow. The Ukraine is a sitting duck with no possibility to strike back at Russia's missile sites, even if they could,
Putin would use submarines to fire missiles, a very unfair situation for the Ukraine. Something has to give, like more American involvement. www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/28/what-stalls-ukraines-advance-in-kherson
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Post by vikingo on Oct 30, 2022 20:02:41 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 31, 2022 9:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 31, 2022 13:08:58 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Oct 31, 2022 20:45:04 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Nov 1, 2022 4:14:07 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 2, 2022 6:14:48 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Nov 2, 2022 20:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 3, 2022 18:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Nov 4, 2022 4:24:54 GMT -5
About the Kremlintarians, imagine Mexico had years to build up a very strong military, had voted for a crazed nationalist dictator, had bought nuclear weapons and drones from Asian countries, has thousands of dirty bombs and infiltrated the Pentagon with Mexican second generation legal immigrants. All of us know how patriotic Mexicans are, just visit the country and make fun of them that the Federales can't control the drug mafias and see what happens. Most Mexicans despise Americans because being overwhelming catholic; even more so now with the new godforsaken western culture of woke, adoration and all out support for trans freaks and the entire alphabet group scene in the Blue States. Now imagine Mexico decides to 'take back' California because it was taken from them at the end of the Mexican American war and it goes further than that according to this part of American history I copied from the National Archives:
The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, Mexico City the capital had fallen, brought an official end to the Mexican-American War (1846-1848), it was signed on February 2, 1848, at Guadalupe Hidalgo, a city north of the capital where the Mexican government had fled with the advance of U.S. forces. By its terms, Mexico ceded 55! percent of its territory, including the present-day states California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. Mexico also relinquished all claims to Texas, and recognized the Rio Grande as the southern boundary with the United States.
The Spanish settlers and their mestizo offspring were in California long before the Anglo's arrived and a meaningful segment of Mexico is convinced they have every right to take back California because of the large number of Hispanics living there. Several cities in CA have a Hispanic population of at least 75% and 'most Hispanics are discriminated against, are exploited and underpaid doing menial work and made fun of because they don't speak proper English or no English at all. Their children who learn English in school are dragged to government offices to translate because the parents are to a large part semi illiterate (seen it with my own eyes numerous times). So the Mexican autocrat decides it requires a special operation to protect the rights of the Hispanic Californios who are treated as second class citizens and his armies invade California, because years of negotiations proved fruitless.
While the surprised US military fights the invaders tooth and nail, Mexitarians of the Libertarian party take Mexico's side and encourage the US population to help stop the fighting and let Mexico have California, because for sure the neglected US military doesn't have a fighting chance against the powerful Mexican forces and according to history California actually belongs to Mexico and there is an ever present danger that Mexico may use it's nuclear arsenal on US soil. Any comments?
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 4, 2022 5:12:08 GMT -5
Being a realist, Mexico wouldn't want California anymore because it is adorned with nothing but 'woke' people and the homeless which would already place a burden on their welfare system, (if they have any). California is about the most God-less state in the union.
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Post by vikingo on Nov 4, 2022 12:46:23 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Nov 4, 2022 14:44:28 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Nov 9, 2022 7:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by vikingo on Nov 9, 2022 12:52:54 GMT -5
Russians retreating from Kherson
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