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Post by charlie640 on Aug 12, 2021 5:48:49 GMT -5
As long as there is NOT a Gov't mandate... capitalism will prevail and there will always be a business that is smart enough to serve an under served Demographic, and this includes AIRTRAVEL. For example... DELTA, AMERICAN AIRLINES and SouthWest announces they would not impose VAX mandates on its crews... so that being the case.. why would they impose them on passengers ? Yes,, ~ 50% of those hospitalized have been VAXED. The VAXed can catch it and Spread it , like the unvaxed... so What Is the point of being vaxed or having restrictions on the unVAXed ? www.precisionvaccinations.com/2021/08/11/israels-covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-exceed-50 Now , wouldn;t it be interesting if the data revealed that the un-Vaxed had worse outcomes than the UnVaxed. This WINTER will be Epic. There is a reason why those which are UnVAxed and have never gotten it, most likely never will. It is lifestyle and mindset. Speaking for myself only. I try not to do stupid stuff and socialize with anyone without a real 3M N95 and do not use worthless surgical masks.
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 12, 2021 15:31:01 GMT -5
At the rate this virus is mutating,,, those who took the Vax will have no protection, and the risk that was taken by getting jabbed with an experimental vax would have been for nothing. Booster shots every year life the seasonal Flu? MAybe but anyone would be insane to get another mRNA inoculation. Do you want your cells to continually produce Spike Proteins, for the rest of your life? THere is no OFF switch ! Go for a real vaccine like the Sinovac or SinoPharm... YES.. lower efficacy BUT if you get COVID you probably won't die from it, and best part,, minimal risk of long term damage.
The real answer are NOT vaccines.. but Treatments.. like IVERMECTIN , mono-clonal Anti-bodies and a new Israeli drug with close to 100% effectiveness.
Big Pharma just LOVES repeat business... lets NOT give it to them !
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 12, 2021 16:02:33 GMT -5
To fly here in Ecuador they are now requiring a PCR test even if your fully vaccinated. thats normal in most countries/places. Be thanful you arenot in OZ or NZ like Ozgringo. Those places have turned into horrible Fascist police states
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 12, 2021 16:10:17 GMT -5
As long as there is NOT a Gov't mandate... capitalism will prevail and there will always be a business that is smart enough to serve an under served Demographic, and this includes AIRTRAVEL. For example... DELTA, AMERICAN AIRLINES and SouthWest announces they would not impose VAX mandates on its crews... so that being the case.. why would they impose them on passengers ? Yes,, ~ 50% of those hospitalized have been VAXED. The VAXed can catch it and Spread it , like the unvaxed... so What Is the point of being vaxed or having restrictions on the unVAXed ? www.precisionvaccinations.com/2021/08/11/israels-covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-exceed-50 Now , wouldn;t it be interesting if the data revealed that the un-Vaxed had worse outcomes than the UnVaxed. This WINTER will be Epic. There is a reason why those which are UnVAxed and have never gotten it, most likely never will. It is lifestyle and mindset. Speaking for myself only. I try not to do stupid stuff and socialize with anyone without a real 3M N95 and do not use worthless surgical masks. Dont know where you get your stats.Here in Canada at least 80 or 90 % of cases are unvaxxed, and the rate for hospitilization is even more skewed Anyone can "cherry Pick" Data to fit thier Agenda I knoew a mountain guide who climbed Everest and a number of Himalyan peaks , who was careful and still got it, is a "long Hauler" and after several months has trouble walking up a few flights of stairs Yes I also know old , average guys who got it and were asymptropic Its Russian Roulette
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 12, 2021 16:15:29 GMT -5
At the rate this virus is mutating,,, those who took the Vax will have no protection, and the risk that was taken by getting jabbed with an experimental vax would have been for nothing. Booster shots every year life the seasonal Flu? MAybe but anyone would be insane to get another mRNA inoculation. Do you want your cells to continually produce Spike Proteins, for the rest of your life? THere is no OFF switch ! Go for a real vaccine like the Sinovac or SinoPharm... YES.. lower efficacy BUT if you get COVID you probably won't die from it, and best part,, minimal risk of long term damage. The real answer are NOT vaccines.. but Treatments.. like IVERMECTIN , mono-clonal Anti-bodies and a new Israeli drug with close to 100% effectiveness. Big Pharma just LOVES repeat business... lets NOT give it to them ! IVERMECTIN is great for treating worms. Better solution is just cook your food to well done and dont walk around the finca barefooted
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 12, 2021 16:53:44 GMT -5
on another note, anyone knows what the present requirement is for PCR testing (if any) when entering Colombia?
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Post by ozgringo on Aug 12, 2021 19:41:56 GMT -5
To fly here in Ecuador they are now requiring a PCR test even if your fully vaccinated. thats normal in most countries/places. Be thanful you arenot in OZ or NZ like Ozgringo. Those places have turned into horrible Fascist police states Don't believe everything you read in the news. Yesterday afternoon we went to the beach. No masks. Picture perfect day.
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Post by james on Aug 12, 2021 21:29:58 GMT -5
An interesting article about Ivermectin:
Ivermectin, the latest supposed treatment for COVID-19 being touted by anti-vaccination groups, had "no effect whatsoever" on the disease, according to a large patient study.
That's the conclusion of the Together Trial, which has subjected several purported nonvaccine treatments for COVID-19 to carefully designed clinical testing. The trial is supervised by McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada, and conducted in Brazil.
One of the trial's principal investigators, Edward Mills of McMaster, presented the results from the Ivermectin study at an Aug. 6 symposium sponsored by the National Institutes of Health.
Among the 1,500 patients in the study, he said, Ivermectin showed "no effect whatsoever" on the trial's outcome goals — whether patients required extended observation in the emergency room or hospitalization.
"In our specific trial," he said, "we do not see the treatment benefit that a lot of the advocates believe should have been seen."
Earlier peer-reviewed results from the Together Trial related to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, which had been touted as a miracle treatment for COVID by then-President Trump, and were published in April; they showed no significant therapeutic effect on the virus.
The findings on Ivermectin are yet another blow for advocates promoting the drug as a magic bullet against COVID-19. Ivermectin was developed as a treatment for parasitical diseases, mostly for veterinarians, though it's also used against some human parasites.
Its repurposing as a COVID treatment began with a 2020 paper by Australian researchers who determined that at extremely high concentrations it showed some efficacy against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID, in the lab. But their research involved concentrations of the drug far beyond what could be achieved, much less tolerated, in the human body.
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 13, 2021 4:58:43 GMT -5
You know, I really wanted it to be true that Avermectin, the key ingredient in Ivermectin, was effective. We originally made it but we don't any more having sold the rights to Sanofi Aventis. But one has to keep in mind that Avermectin is an anti-parasitic. It is good for fire ants, heartworms in your dog, cattle and horses, and in smaller doses kills the larvae that cause river blindness, (Mectizan). I knew it was a long shot but secretly held out that it had some kind of effect.
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 13, 2021 5:53:03 GMT -5
EU looks into Pfizer, Moderna vaccine side effects Thu, August 12, 2021, 2:10 AM Shares in Moderna and Pfizer sank on Wednesday after the European Union drug regulator said it was looking into possible new side effects of the companies' COVID-19 vaccines. That includes kidney inflammation, an allergic skin reaction, and a renal disorder with heavy protein loss in urine. Pfizer is by far the biggest supplier of COVID-19 vaccines to the European Union, issuing just over 330 million doses in the region compared to some 43 million from Moderna. Both companies did not immediately respond to Reuters requests for comment. us.yahoo.com/news/eu-looks-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-071054530.html
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 13, 2021 8:16:33 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 13, 2021 11:01:01 GMT -5
Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine just 42% effective against infection amid delta spread, preprint suggests Thu, August 12, 2021, 9:31 AM Early findings posted ahead of rigorous peer review suggested the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine declined to 42% effectiveness against infection amid sweeping spread of the delta variant, with the Moderna vaccine declining to 76%. Researchers at the Mayo Clinic and Cambridge-based biotech company nference posted the retrospective study in medrxiv this week, drawing from tens of thousands PCR tests conducted at the Mayo Clinic and affiliated hospitals across nearly half a dozen states. The study period analyzed samples from January to July, when either the alpha or delta variant was a highly prevalent strain; "the Delta variant prevalence in Minnesota increased from 0.7% in May to over 70% in July whereas the Alpha variant prevalence decreased from 85% to 13% over the same time period," the preprint reads. While results indicated the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were highly effective against COVID-19 infection (76%, 86%, respectively) and hospitalization (85%, 91.6%) the effectiveness against infection dropped by July to 42% and 76%, respectively. Further findings indicated that people vaccinated with Moderna’s shot were half as likely to develop a breakthrough infection, compared to recipients of the Pfizer vaccine. What’s more, researchers found that Florida residents fully vaccinated with Moderna’s shot faced a 60% lower risk of infection when compared to Pfizer recipients. Also, across all states, the Moderna vaccine cut COVID-related hospitalizations by about half the rate compared to the Pfizer vaccine. Researchers noted "no significant difference" between the groups relating to ICU admission for COVID-19. In a statement sent to Fox News, Pfizer reiterated confidence in the protection and safety of its two-dose COVID-19 vaccine, and noted an ongoing "robust booster research program to ensure" the vaccine offers the greatest level of protection as possible. Pfizer intends to share the compiled data with regulators around the world in the coming weeks. "The vaccine continues to be highly efficacious in preventing COVID-19, including variants and to date, no variant, including Delta, appears to have escaped the protection of the vaccine," the statement reads. Fox News has also requested comment from Moderna. Dr. Gregory Poland, professor of medicine, infectious diseases and molecular pharmacology at the Mayo Clinic, whose name doesn't appear on the study, told Fox News: "We caution against drawing conclusions about vaccine effectiveness from a preprint study, which is intended only to be helpful to the scientific community and has not yet undergone the rigor of peer-review." Study authors suggested several factors behind the differences observed among the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, including the dosing, meaning "each mRNA-1273 [Moderna] dose provides three times more mRNA copies of the Spike protein than BNT162b2 [Pfizer], which could result in more effective priming of the immune response." The study had its limitations; the sample size wasn’t representative of the U.S. population, and authors said other factors could've impacted the findings regarding reduced vaccine effectiveness (like "waning immunity over time, the dynamic landscape of SARS-CoV-2 variants, or other factors that were not considered here.") "Our observational study suggests that while both mRNA COVID-19 vaccines strongly protect against infection and severe disease, there are differences in their real-world effectiveness relative to each other and relative to prior months of the pandemic," study authors concluded. Researchers called for larger studies with more diverse participants to guide public health decisions, including timing of booster doses. us.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-just-143124782.html
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 13, 2021 11:33:13 GMT -5
with every new variant.. a loss of efficacy. BIG Pharma WILL Rake in $$ Trillions from booster shots. And you thought it was 1 Vac and back to normal ? HUGE $$ at stake and there is an information war going on right now.
BigPharma Vacs vs. BigPharma Theraputics vs. Cheap RePurposed Generics
Guess who's in last place and will be TRASHED in the media ?
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 13, 2021 11:46:32 GMT -5
Hopefully this COVID thing will come to an end soon and we wont have to be exposed to all this sh1te.
The MSN is already starting to push the Climate change "existentia threat " thing again.
Its OK to be informed, but really,I should go back into the mountains with 2 weeks without internet again
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 13, 2021 12:53:43 GMT -5
Avoid mRNA jabs at all cost. Use a real vaccine like the SINOVAC , yes lower efficacy , BUT your body will thank you later ! If you think mRNA jabs are safe.... watch this ! www.bitchute.com/video/FPehpfdTleDo/Interesting He says as per he Emergency Use Authorization .. these VACS can ONLY be used if there is NO Theraputics available !! Is it any wonder all treatments are being trashed by the controlled mass media ??
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 13, 2021 17:49:18 GMT -5
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Post by búfalo on Aug 14, 2021 18:08:11 GMT -5
I haven't gotten any yet, but am slowly being obligated to do so. I am searching for a fake card though.
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 14, 2021 20:14:19 GMT -5
I haven't gotten any yet, but am slowly being obligated to do so. I am searching for a fake card though. Your BOSS should be obligated to watch the 2 Videos I posted. But I suppose if he is already an mRNA zombie... he won't have much sympathy ;-(
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Post by búfalo on Aug 15, 2021 10:02:55 GMT -5
It's everywhere. No indoor stuff in NYC. That's illegal meanwhile people are once again shooting up heroine right in the street.
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 15, 2021 13:16:47 GMT -5
búfalo said: Well I'm glad to see things are returning to normal in the Big Apple!
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 15, 2021 18:24:55 GMT -5
All this MANDATE stuff will fall apart sooner than you think. 4Q 2021 & 2022 will be EPIC !!!! If your not a prepper, GET with the Program !
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 18, 2021 16:11:09 GMT -5
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 21, 2021 9:16:12 GMT -5
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 21, 2021 9:18:27 GMT -5
He wont be able to.prove it killed 45000 people Any lawsuites should be based on human rights issies, not science.
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Post by elexpatriado on Aug 23, 2021 11:14:59 GMT -5
You guys aleady know this,but FDA has just given full approval for the Pfizer vaccine
But then we all know they were paid off by George Soros ..LOL
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 23, 2021 16:16:27 GMT -5
You guys aleady know this,but FDA has just given full approval for the Pfizer vaccine But then we all know they were paid off by George Soros ..LOL The average approval time for a drug with the FDA is 12 years.
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Post by scumbuster on Aug 23, 2021 16:24:55 GMT -5
Be happy your not in Australia.
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Post by ozgringo on Aug 23, 2021 19:33:33 GMT -5
It's draconian. We now have to wear masks outside now. (Since Monday). The first time since the pandemic started. My son is home schooling now. His 7th week. Ridiculous that the kids can't hang out with their friends all day. Reassured that school will be returning to face to face learning in October. Unbelievable that the government can stop face to face schooling. Has such a big impact on the little kids. 10 weeks is too long. Thankfully the playgrounds are still open. We go to the skate park, bmx track, cricket nets most days. We still go to our local beach. Thankfully the Gestapo government hasn't closed them yet.
It's ridiculous that they are this draconian. In a population of approx 10 million we've only had 130 covid deaths.
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 23, 2021 20:22:35 GMT -5
Talk of draconian, because the Pfizer vaccination now has approval my company is making it mandatory that all employees will be vaccinated by Nov 1 or they will be working for another company!
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 25, 2021 8:54:34 GMT -5
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