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Post by james on Jun 15, 2021 14:21:32 GMT -5
Our entire immediate family ( me, Luz, our son, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter ) have had both of their covid vaccine shots. Just wondering how many other forum members have had theirs?? How many of you guys are not gonna take them??
- JAMES
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Post by tubes on Jun 15, 2021 14:53:48 GMT -5
I had my 2 Sinovac shots in May and barely a week later caught the real Covid. The vaccinations doubtless helped in reducing the effects and I was back on my feet in a week but obviously stayed in quarantine.
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Post by mudd on Jun 15, 2021 15:23:30 GMT -5
not old, not fat, no health issues...... that i know of lol..... ill wait.... and my doctor in the US got the vaccine months ago said..... you have to get it every six months.....
if your healthy... no health issues, not old, prob better getting covid... letting it go through your system and be done with it.....
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Post by scumbuster on Jun 15, 2021 16:00:13 GMT -5
I didnt get it and for now not planning on getting it. I have started taking Ivermectin 1 time a week which is a treatment once you have covid but also a posable preventive. There was a long video in our (Medical Breakthroughs and Health) section on Ivermectin but YouTube took it down.
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Post by wildstubby on Jun 15, 2021 16:34:25 GMT -5
Me and the wife got the Pfizer shot. I couldn't take a chance on her getting it. She suffered about 3 bouts of pneumonia during her lengthy hospital stay, (about 14 months!). I didn't have any effects other than a sore arm, (Blood Type O-), the wife had a headache for a couple of days after her 2nd shot, (Blood Type O+).
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Post by ozgringo on Jun 15, 2021 21:13:08 GMT -5
Not yet. Have put my name on the vaccine list here in Sydney. I am in the 40 to 50 age group. We have only just become eligible.
I will get it when my time comes around.
My 70 year old mother has had the vaccine. No issues.
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Post by mondongo on Jun 16, 2021 7:47:38 GMT -5
The spouse & I have had both Phizer jabs.
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Post by pilotguy68 on Jun 16, 2021 7:59:24 GMT -5
Got my first Pfizer shot, waiting for second. Wife gets first Pfizer soon. But I had to use influence with contact at EPS or I received Sinovac. Real pain in shoulder for two days. No other reactions. Joe
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Post by búfalo on Jun 16, 2021 15:12:37 GMT -5
Not yet
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Post by charlie640 on Jun 16, 2021 19:09:57 GMT -5
No, and am not planning on it. It's the first mRNA vaccine with ZERO info on long term side effects. If I do a vacinne it will be the CUBAN vaccine, which is a true vaccine, NOT a frankenstein mRNA jab. There are plenty of effective treatment options available now, and even without that treatments, there is a VERY low risk of any issues if you don't have any pre-exisiting condx. Yessss Ivermectin is the real deal !! covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-mask-plus-protocol/
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Post by búfalo on Jun 17, 2021 11:29:58 GMT -5
How is travel without it? Haven't been anywhere lately
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Post by scumbuster on Jun 17, 2021 12:11:17 GMT -5
How is travel without it? Haven't been anywhere lately I just flew from Ecuador to Colombia and back. Had to get 2 PCR tests. One to enter Colombia and another when I went back to Ecuador. Now Colombia isn't requiring one so if I go again next month I will only need 1 PCR test to go back to Ecuador.
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 17, 2021 18:36:26 GMT -5
Our entire immediate family ( me, Luz, our son, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter ) have had both of their covid vaccine shots. Just wondering how many other forum members have had theirs?? How many of you guys are not gonna take them?? - JAMES I got both Phizer. Last one two weeks ago, but I had to be proactive and fly to Medellin from Manizales to get them. No Scum, I am not growing another head or any other medical deformity
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 17, 2021 18:40:39 GMT -5
not old, not fat, no health issues...... that i know of lol..... ill wait.... and my doctor in the US got the vaccine months ago said..... you have to get it every six months..... if your healthy... no health issues, not old, prob better getting covid... letting it go through your system and be done with it..... Mudd- I know a guy, a friend of mine in Bucaramanga that can easily run circles around you, same age as you and he was in ICU for over a month. Just recently removed the ventilator tube. There are many other examples of similar situations, athletic people of all ages Its Russian Roulette- a crap shoot. Even if you dont get hospitalized.it can screw you up for a long time
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 17, 2021 18:44:48 GMT -5
Not to mention that you will need it soon to travel (vaccinaton evidence)
I personally dont agree with that at all, but that is the way it is looking
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Post by mudd on Jun 17, 2021 18:56:27 GMT -5
not old, not fat, no health issues...... that i know of lol..... ill wait.... and my doctor in the US got the vaccine months ago said..... you have to get it every six months..... if your healthy... no health issues, not old, prob better getting covid... letting it go through your system and be done with it..... Mudd- I know a guy, a friend of mine in Bucaramanga that can easily run circles around you, same age as you and he was in ICU for over a month. Just recently removed the ventilator tube. There are many other examples of similar situations, athletic people of all ages Its Russian Roulette- a crap shoot. Even if you dont get hospitalized.it can screw you up for a long time ill take my chances than getting some vaccine thats only been around for a year lol..... like i said, know many who got it, two days and fine after..... if your a worry wart like you.. then get it...
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Post by james on Jun 18, 2021 9:05:09 GMT -5
I don't understand some people's reluctance to take the Covid Vaccine. First of all, I'm not interested in starting an argument here. My point is that over 1 billion people have been vaccinated world-wide, and only a miniscule number have reported any serious adverse reactions. So, from a personal protection standpoint, I feel it's a good idea to take it. If you don't want it, that's your choice. But I have yet to see any of the antivaxers present a valid reason for rejecting it.
- JAMES
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Post by charlie640 on Jun 18, 2021 12:10:44 GMT -5
I don't understand some people's reluctance to take the Covid Vaccine. First of all, I'm not interested in starting an argument here. My point is that over 1 billion people have been vaccinated world-wide, and only a miniscule number have reported any serious adverse reactions. So, from a personal protection standpoint, I feel it's a good idea to take it. If you don't want it, that's your choice. But I have yet to see any of the antivaxers present a valid reason for rejecting it. - JAMES Hi James 1) Its not a vaccine in the traditional sense. Miriam Webster had to revise their definition of what a vaccine was to include mRNA type just so folks would not question anything ! 2) mRNA has never been tested in Humans, and from what I hear, the animal studies showed bad side effects. regenerativemc.com/thursday-4-8-2021-what-happened-in-the-animal-trials-for-mrna-vaccines/2) No long term studies were done. Many issues will not show up immediately, so why be a guinea pig if you are in a LOW Risk group ?
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Post by scumbuster on Jun 18, 2021 12:52:30 GMT -5
I have posted 3 videos by very qualified people in the field. YouTube deleted them. I found 2 of them on alternative channels and if you are wondering why some may be hesitant you can listen to these. Many people just briefly listen because they are long in depth videos. The second video talks about downplayed vaccine side affects and one compelling chart shows previous vaccine deaths for the last 100 years to the covid vaccine. Draw your own conclusions but these people are not crackpots. www.bitchute.com/video/AHGqHsMe1r6g/www.bitchute.com/video/SpcafuWAkrAY/
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Post by charlie640 on Jun 18, 2021 14:23:50 GMT -5
Second video is interesting. The vaccine expert on the LEFT is amazing!! Soooo funny that he took the Moderna vac,,, and now regrets it . Guy on the RIGHT is totally obnoxious, has ADD, and need to smoke a joint !
What he said about the EUA ( Emergency use authorization) is VERY telling !! He said normally when the FDA issues an EUA they mandate that all Serious Adverse Events (SAE) be reported. Since they had ZERO long term data on safety, and bad animal trials, one of the aims of the EUA should have been to mandate data collection of SAE's, this was curiously left out !
He also said that despite what the FDA said, they did cut corners and many of the test that are normally done, were not, and he was not talking about the long terms testing. He mentioned reproductive toxicity, and that they have now found a previously unknown chemical in womens reproductive organs ... maybe they should ask Bill Gates abt that.. lol .. .
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Post by james on Jun 18, 2021 16:55:11 GMT -5
These last two posts are exactly what I was looking for ... valid reasons for rejecting the Covid Jabs.
- James
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Post by charlie640 on Jun 18, 2021 19:38:03 GMT -5
People also need to access their risk profile from 3 perspectives as well:
- likely hood of contracting it: Factors include lifestyle / personal protective measures taken and # of cases in the areas you frequent.
-if contracted, are there preconditions that would predispose you to a bad outcome
-availability of quality medical care
There are also a myriad of proven treatments that cure COVID.. Why take an experimental vaccine for something that can be treated by proven safe and effective drugs that can be used prescribed off-label ?
YES, it is experimental because they can not tell you definitively if it will cause long term side effects, or not.
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2021 9:05:51 GMT -5
Got my first Pfizer shot, waiting for second. Wife gets first Pfizer soon. But I had to use influence with contact at EPS or I received Sinovac. Real pain in shoulder for two days. No other reactions. Joe And you are quite a bit older than me. Manizales sucks as far as Vaccine roll out big time. They put control in the hands of the incompetent EPSs. I had to be proactive fly to Medellin to get mine. Been fully vaccinated with Phizer 3 weeks now
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2021 9:08:33 GMT -5
People also need to access their risk profile from 3 perspectives as well: - likely hood of contracting it: Factors include lifestyle / personal protective measures taken and # of cases in the areas you frequent. -if contracted, are there preconditions that would predispose you to a bad outcome -availability of quality medical care There are also a myriad of proven treatments that cure COVID.. Why take an experimental vaccine for something that can be treated by proven safe and effective drugs that can be used prescribed off-label ? YES, it is experimental because they can not tell you definitively if it will cause long term side effects, or not. You guys should really watch a lot less of those tin foil sites and use a little science, math, logic and staistics in your analysis I know many people with long term effects from contacting COVID, but have yet to meet anyone having effects from a litle Beta shot in the arm Statistics bear this out. Risk from COVID is several 1000 times greater than the vaccine risk. You can speculate all you want on what the future long term effects are from either, but that is all it is, speculation, and until it happens, fantasy. Yep and yes there will be some stories about how out of a few billion people who were vaccinated, their were a few cases were peoples heads or hearts exploded. You can be assured these stories will be plastered all over the Tin Foil hat sites on the internet. Sometimes you guys remind me of the maid I had in Buccaramanga. She was convinced they were injecting people with COVID during the PCR tests, and now she has some statistic in here head that "70%" of people who get vaccinated die right afterwards, so she refuses to get vaccinated.
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2021 9:18:14 GMT -5
These last two posts are exactly what I was looking for ... valid reasons for rejecting the Covid Jabs. - James Dont know if the Qanon types who get their information from Bichute appreciate your sarcasm ..LOL
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2021 9:22:18 GMT -5
Mudd- I know a guy, a friend of mine in Bucaramanga that can easily run circles around you, same age as you and he was in ICU for over a month. Just recently removed the ventilator tube. There are many other examples of similar situations, athletic people of all ages Its Russian Roulette- a crap shoot. Even if you dont get hospitalized.it can screw you up for a long time ill take my chances than getting some vaccine thats only been around for a year lol..... like i said, know many who got it, two days and fine after..... if your a worry wart like you.. then get it... Not a worry wart..just have more education in science, math, common sense than you Sorry...its the truth BTW forget of ever traveling to EUROPE, many other countries in Latin America for the next few years--maybe even your home state of California if you dont get vaccinated
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Post by ozgringo on Jun 19, 2021 9:25:30 GMT -5
We've had a new cluster pop up in Sydney the last few days with the Delta variant (highly infectious Indian strain). The first case was a limo driver. Who unwittingly drove an infected pilot from the airport to their hotel). Apparently the pilot tested negative before flying to Australia.
Our contact tracers have been following everywhere this limo driver has been since becoming infected.
The managed to get him on cctv in a department store where he infected one other man. They literary can see the two men walk past each other on CCTV . They don't know each other. They are calling it a fleeting transmission.
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Post by pilotguy68 on Jun 19, 2021 15:44:27 GMT -5
Got my first Pfizer shot, waiting for second. Wife gets first Pfizer soon. But I had to use influence with contact at EPS or I received Sinovac. Real pain in shoulder for two days. No other reactions. Joe And you are quite a bit older than me. Manizales sucks as far as Vaccine roll out big time. They put control in the hands of the incompetent EPSs. I had to be proactive fly to Medellin to get mine. Been fully vaccinated with Phizer 3 weeks now
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Post by pilotguy68 on Jun 19, 2021 15:44:45 GMT -5
And you are quite a bit older than me. Manizales sucks as far as Vaccine roll out big time. They put control in the hands of the incompetent EPSs. I had to be proactive fly to Medellin to get mine. Been fully vaccinated with Phizer 3 weeks now
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Post by pilotguy68 on Jun 19, 2021 15:45:41 GMT -5
Elex, thanks for reminding me thatI am old. Joe
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