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Post by mudd on Jul 14, 2020 7:26:27 GMT -5
COVID-19 in Colombia: Medellin announces weekly lockdowns to prevent healthcare collapse. Medellin Mayor Daniel Quintero said on Monday that Colombia’s second largest city will shut down again on Friday to prevent the collapse of the city’s healthcare system during the COVID-19 pandemic. The four-day lockdown is the first in Colombia’s second largest city since President Ivan Duque began relaxing his March 25 lockdown in late April. Medellin’s city center locked down on Monday already after the acting governor declared an orange alert over the rapid saturation of hospitals in the Antioquia province, Colombia’s second largest economy after the capital Bogota. colombiareports.com/covid-19-in-colombia-medellin-announces-weekly-lockdowns-to-prevent-healthcare-collapse/
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Post by nickdanger on Jul 17, 2020 15:16:52 GMT -5
my paisa friend just told me the streets in medellin are deserted and food deliveries from supermarkets take 24 hours. she did not say the lockdown is until monday though - she implied it is indefinite.
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Post by nickdanger on Jul 23, 2020 13:03:20 GMT -5
the upscale women's clothing store where she works reopened for 4 days a week this week after closing down the prior week - only allowing 5 customers at a time it seems
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Post by nickdanger on Jul 23, 2020 17:54:20 GMT -5
she just told me that a customer who works in the ministry of health just told her that in 10 days a 3 month quarantine is back in effect
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Post by jabberwocky on Jul 23, 2020 19:58:58 GMT -5
While I applaud Colombia for having a plan and sticking to it - isn't maybe time to rethink it? - I think originally they thought they could just hideout from the virus until it went away or weakened greatly - clearly that is not going to happen and even if they develop a vaccine it won't be available until next year. Continue to open - bit by bit - trying to keep hospitalizations in check - wear masks everywhere and isolate the elderly as much as possible - or at least let them decide how much risk they are willing to take - they could crash the entire country if they try to hide out for a year.
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Post by nickdanger on Jul 23, 2020 21:03:05 GMT -5
i just made my avatar a picture she sent from her store - not only a mask but a plastic visor
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Post by robbierobnj on Jul 24, 2020 1:00:18 GMT -5
Unfortunately Colombia is in a lose lose situation. If they stay closed they will lose the little economy they have and if they open the virus will cripple colombia and the population with people starving , hospitals closing, crime spiking etc. This is just the early stages for colombia it is now 15 on list of countries by cases and will be top 10 by September I expect all of South America to suffer into the new year. Best of luck to those who stay and of you have the chance I’d leave .
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Post by caliorbust on Jul 24, 2020 8:02:44 GMT -5
Robbie, those of us who decided to stay in Colombia except for Elex have family here, wife and kids. The sex tourists already left.
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Post by caliorbust on Jul 24, 2020 8:21:15 GMT -5
COVID-19 in Colombia: Medellin announces weekly lockdowns to prevent healthcare collapse. Medellin Mayor Daniel Quintero said on Monday that Colombia’s second largest city will shut down again on Friday to prevent the collapse of the city’s healthcare system during the COVID-19 pandemic. The four-day lockdown is the first in Colombia’s second largest city since President Ivan Duque began relaxing his March 25 lockdown in late April. Medellin’s city center locked down on Monday already after the acting governor declared an orange alert over the rapid saturation of hospitals in the Antioquia province, Colombia’s second largest economy after the capital Bogota. colombiareports.com/covid-19-in-colombia-medellin-announces-weekly-lockdowns-to-prevent-healthcare-collapse/Medellín is on 5th. place of cases with only 160 deaths (for a large city) after Bogotá, Barranquilla, Cali and Cartagena. It looks like that may change.
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Post by wildstubby on Jul 24, 2020 8:55:13 GMT -5
Just an FYI, my 'spidey senses' are telling me the lock-down will end the first of Sept. For the last couple months, today being no exception, I have been receiving emails from Avianca selling discounted flights from 1 Sept. to 1 March 2021. I would suspect that someone with flight industry knowledge would have the inside track on this!
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Post by mudd on Jul 24, 2020 9:43:16 GMT -5
Just an FYI, my 'spidey senses' are telling me the lock-down will end the first of Sept. For the last couple months, today being no exception, I have been receiving emails from Avianca selling discounted flights from 1 Sept. to 1 March 2021. I would suspect that someone with flight industry knowledge would have the inside track on this! yeah but who wants to fly and then do a 14 day quarantine stuck in a hotel or apartment, no thanks
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Post by elexpatriado on Jul 24, 2020 9:54:06 GMT -5
she just told me that a customer who works in the ministry of health just told her that in 10 days a 3 month quarantine is back in effect My maid said her cousin who knows the presidents brother said that he told her "confidentially" that starting next week they are going to shoot the odd person who do not wear a mask..as an "incentive"
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Post by elexpatriado on Jul 24, 2020 10:01:53 GMT -5
i just made my avatar a picture she sent from her store - not only a mask but a plastic visor You would believe a woman who dresses like that? Obvious example of an extreme nervous nellie I might get decked out like that on a long haul international flight , but with an N95 or better respirator You gotta stop listening to Colombia chismes Nick How old is she anyway Nick? Does she have any pre-existing conditions?
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Post by elexpatriado on Jul 24, 2020 10:09:00 GMT -5
Robbie, those of us who decided to stay in Colombia except for Elex have family here, wife and kids. The sex tourists already left. I have someone here to..who is very, very dependent on me, not just financially (as I can send support), but much more so emotionally. but I might leave anyway if they close things down again. It will be a very hard decision, but I reallly cant take living in a police state much longer. We will see if Risaralda and Quindio stay as relative "Free States " over the next couple weeks. We might go there. But I am definitely heading out in then New Year.Put a lot of money down on ski trips (which may stillget cancelled-espescially the Cat Skiing (13 people crammed into a cab), if there is a resurgance in Canada)
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Post by robbierobnj on Jul 24, 2020 10:13:35 GMT -5
Robbie, those of us who decided to stay in Colombia except for Elex have family here, wife and kids. The sex tourists already left. Cali, I'm not one who believes all tourist are sex tourist I don't get into the sex tourist thing and who has a prepago for a wife etc. As for the deaths being lower than other cities in Colombia it hit Medellin later but its catching up fast and Deaths don't really matter in my opinion because so many will have permanent health issues and so much economic damage is being done. I also don't believe for a minute the number of cases being reported but its all we have to go on. The US has the number of cases it has because of the number of test being done. Stay healthy
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Post by elexpatriado on Jul 24, 2020 10:20:30 GMT -5
Just an FYI, my 'spidey senses' are telling me the lock-down will end the first of Sept. For the last couple months, today being no exception, I have been receiving emails from Avianca selling discounted flights from 1 Sept. to 1 March 2021. I would suspect that someone with flight industry knowledge would have the inside track on this! Dont hold your breath...yo better squish that spider, it is poisoning your reasoning I highly doubt inernational flights will start this year. They have been talking about "pilot" domestic flights this year for months. They had 2 between Bucaramanga and Cucuta, now no plans for more. It is very unlikely the mayors of Bogota and Medellin will allow the airports to be opened in the near future. And if the US gets better and Colombia worsened, maybe people will be able to get here with a 14 day quarantine (which even that I highly doubt), but wont be abe to get back. Colombia will be on the "Black LIST" Pay for your flight and then watch them pocket the money and offer you another flight when"things are normalized" Just a scam for the suckers to give them money try to stem the massive financial hemmoraging
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Post by elexpatriado on Jul 24, 2020 10:33:53 GMT -5
Robbie, those of us who decided to stay in Colombia except for Elex have family here, wife and kids. The sex tourists already left. Cali, I'm not one who believes all tourist are sex tourist I don't get into the sex tourist thing and who has a prepago for a wife etc. As for the deaths being lower than other cities in Colombia it hit Medellin later but its catching up fast and Deaths don't really matter in my opinion because so many will have permanent health issues and so much economic damage is being done. I also don't believe for a minute the number of cases being reported but its all we have to go on. The US has the number of cases it has because of the number of test being done. Stay healthy Yep , some survivors do have secondary effecs, not trying to minimize this fact , but of course this is overblown and sensationalized by the MSN as well No guarantees, but no reason to stay cowering under your bed like a nervous nellie- Colombia will be lucky if they follow the path of Chile, who now have around 450 daths per million and still rising , (but at a lower rate every day) vs 150 in Colombia (roughly) . Chile is now in recovery mode. If we are lucky enough to follow Chile, Colombia will be down the other side of he curve in about 3 months. If not, and we follow Peru`s path- with a long plateau of an extremely high case and death rate- it could be much longer.
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Post by scumbuster on Jul 24, 2020 13:11:33 GMT -5
We just started to hear rumors yesterday of our area going RED again. I hope just rumors or I will be confined to running on the beach again. It could be worse I guess. Being on the beach every day during a lock down isn't that bad.
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Post by robbierobnj on Jul 24, 2020 13:33:00 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion unless you force people to lock down in Colombia it will only get worse. I'd hope people respect the virus but it seems like they are doomed to have the virus increase before it gets any better
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Post by Luther Blissett on Jul 24, 2020 14:38:16 GMT -5
We just started to hear rumors yesterday of our area going RED again. I hope just rumors or I will be confined to running on the beach again. It could be worse I guess. Being on the beach every day during a lock down isn't that bad. Where is that? I was on the beach everyday after phase 1 here in the Canary Islands. Not too bad, you're right. And they were deserted.
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Post by Luther Blissett on Jul 24, 2020 14:40:44 GMT -5
Cali, I'm not one who believes all tourist are sex tourist I don't get into the sex tourist thing and who has a prepago for a wife etc. As for the deaths being lower than other cities in Colombia it hit Medellin later but its catching up fast and Deaths don't really matter in my opinion because so many will have permanent health issues and so much economic damage is being done. I also don't believe for a minute the number of cases being reported but its all we have to go on. The US has the number of cases it has because of the number of test being done. Stay healthy Yep , some survivors do have secondary effecs, not trying to minimize this fact , but of course this is overblown and sensationalized by the MSN as well No guarantees, but no reason to stay cowering under your bed like a nervous nellie- Colombia will be lucky if they follow the path of Chile, who now have around 450 daths per million and still rising , (but at a lower rate every day) vs 150 in Colombia (roughly) . Chile is now in recovery mode. If we are lucky enough to follow Chile, Colombia will be down the other side of he curve in about 3 months. If not, and we follow Peru`s path- with a long plateau of an extremely high case and death rate- it could be much longer. I always thought Colombia and the USA were one month and a half after us here. I was wrong. I believe they made an unnecessary lockdown too early. But you need to consider that they are testing more now (although not enough), so the number of cases does not mean much. Colombia could be nearer to the down curve, we just cannot know with the low numbers of tests. You need 15%-20% of population infected to stop the pandemia. I think one needs to look at Michael Levitt and Karl Friston studies. About sensationalism and media trying to scare people, it will all stop for US people when Trump will not be re-elected.
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Post by nickdanger on Jul 24, 2020 15:38:16 GMT -5
my friend just heard on the news that a minimum 15 day nationwide lock down is to resume in a week or so - seems her store manager mandated the uniform and mask she is wearing for all the employees, and also banned jewelry
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Post by ozgringo on Jul 24, 2020 16:28:48 GMT -5
We have if you could call it a second wave in our second largest city Melbourne. (5 million people). 6 week lockdown.
We thought naively that we had beaten this alien virus. Not so.
I fear this thing will show it's ugly head over and over again until we get a vaccine.
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Post by caliorbust on Jul 24, 2020 18:00:09 GMT -5
she just told me that a customer who works in the ministry of health just told her that in 10 days a 3 month quarantine is back in effect I believe her. It will get worse before it gets better.
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Post by scumbuster on Jul 24, 2020 18:46:56 GMT -5
We just started to hear rumors yesterday of our area going RED again. I hope just rumors or I will be confined to running on the beach again. It could be worse I guess. Being on the beach every day during a lock down isn't that bad. Where is that? I was on the beach everyday after phase 1 here in the Canary Islands. Not too bad, you're right. And they were deserted. Im on the coast near Manta, Ecuador
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Post by nickdanger on Jul 24, 2020 18:49:48 GMT -5
At the moment there is a total curfew from Friday thru Sunday, as there was last weekend. Next week a new extended curfew may be announced. It seems to be a day to day proposition. She says that a lot of people simply disregard the curfew and continue to congregate in the street etc etc.
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Post by james on Jul 24, 2020 20:08:45 GMT -5
At the moment there is a total curfew from Friday thru Sunday, as there was last weekend. Next week a new extended curfew may be announced. It seems to be a day to day proposition. She says that a lot of people simply disregard the curfew and continue to congregate in the street etc etc. Many of these people aren't disregarding the curfew. They are members of the homeless population in Medellin who live on the street. A large number of homeless live along the river close to Minorista, and go there to scavenge discarded and spoiled food every day. No such thing as social distancing there. In all probability many of these people have or will contract the virus, and wander around town spreading it to others. It's a big problem with no easy solution. - JAMES
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Post by elexpatriado on Jul 24, 2020 20:13:46 GMT -5
my friend just heard on the news that a minimum 15 day nationwide lock down is to resume in a week or so - seems her store manager mandated the uniform and mask she is wearing for all the employees, and also banned jewelry So it went from 3 months to 15 days..She might be right...a lucky guess maybe..and maybe it will only apply to departments with high and risig caseloads.. I dont think they are going to tell people they will be locked down for 3 months..that would start country-wide wide riots..they will put it in bite-sized chunks. Anyway , anymore nation wide lock downs will put Colombia in the same league economiclly as Venezuela..
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Post by mudd on Jul 24, 2020 21:18:17 GMT -5
all started with " dia sin puestos" govt person who thought of this should be shot. what a complete idiot
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Post by robbierobnj on Jul 25, 2020 7:55:55 GMT -5
It's a lose lose situation either you sacrifice life and health or you shutdown and lose the little economy left. I really think they should borrow a ton of cash and give it to people as sort of stimulus that allows for a peaceful quarantine but Colombians would probably f*#k that money up as well, The loans would more than likely be forgiven by other nations in the long run
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