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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 13, 2017 8:40:52 GMT -5
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Post by livinginmedellin on Jan 13, 2017 9:44:46 GMT -5
Look at the source: Kathleen Peddicord from Live & Invest Overseas. Everything in that retirement publication tends to be though rose-colored glasses.
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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 13, 2017 11:04:44 GMT -5
Understand the rose covered glasses - but the reference to Euro chic is what made me a bit confused. Does Euro chic mean you have a bunch of Euro backpacker types staying in Hostels - does that make you chic?
I wish they would just stick with reality - Poblado is nice , its a bit expensive - compared to other parts of Medellin - compared to NYC , Miami, LA - its very cheap, the traffic sucks and even though it has the highest number of ex-pats and tourists - it is still 95% Colombian -
Ave Poblado (if you disregard the traffic) is pleasant - tree lined , clean , upscale buildings , restaurants, hotels - even a Krispy Kreme now, a Sunday morning biking or walking when the street is closed is one of the best things to do in Medellin. But try to use it at 5pm on a weekday.
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Post by sedelen on Jan 13, 2017 12:11:25 GMT -5
Saw that article this morning, first thing I did was look for the author, "Kathleen Peddicord" ah, rings a bell, thinking back to the International Living days. Of course it would be Pablado in Medellin, closest to what Americans can relate too I thought. The word I focused on was "tranquil" and sure I've walked some of the roads amongst the high rise apartments behind the Sante Fe mall that were, but then I thought about the main roads and the crazy traffic, and lord help you if you're trying to get home on a late Friday afternoon. There are those that come here and truly believe they have found their "Paradise on Earth" Wonder what this guy does for a living? Promote Medellin? And then you got this recent article saying Colombia is one of the most dangerous places to visit, how does that fit into your retirement plans? www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/most-dangerous-vacation-destinations/ss-BBxPfBm?ocid=spartandhp#image=8And then this one saying that Colombia is one of the cheapest countries to live in 2017, which I might say probably will be true as long as the dollar continues to remain strong. www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/the-cheapest-countries-to-live-in-2017/ss-BBxNVhD?ocid=spartandhp#image=19
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 12:28:49 GMT -5
Saw that article this morning, first thing I did was look for the author, "Kathleen Peddicord" ah, rings a bell, thinking back to the International Living days. Of course it would be Pablado in Medellin, closest to what Americans can relate too I thought. The word I focused on was "tranquil" and sure I've walked some of the roads amongst the high rise apartments behind the Sante Fe mall that were, but then I thought about the main roads and the crazy traffic, and lord help you if you're trying to get home on a late Friday afternoon. There are those that come here and truly believe they have found their "Paradise on Earth" Wonder what this guy does for a living? Promote Medellin? And then you got this recent article saying Colombia is one of the most dangerous places to visit, how does that fit into your retirement plans? www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/most-dangerous-vacation-destinations/ss-BBxPfBm?ocid=spartandhp#image=8And then this one saying that Colombia is one of the cheapest countries to live in 2017, which I might say probably will be true as long as the dollar continues to remain strong. www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/the-cheapest-countries-to-live-in-2017/ss-BBxNVhD?ocid=spartandhp#image=19I've heard rumors that the black guy on the video will be the next editor of Medellin Living, so the next time they do a reader survey 76.6% of the readers won't be coming to Medellin for a good meal(LMAO-of all the places to get a good meal Medellin is not in the top 1000), but 76% will be coming to experiment with their binoculars and occasionally glance at beautiful women.
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Post by dandl93 on Jan 13, 2017 13:03:47 GMT -5
His health would improve if he would go to the mountains.
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Post by sedelen on Jan 13, 2017 13:23:19 GMT -5
I'm think I'm right about this guy, making a living by promoting "Medellin." I believe this web-site is his, "Escape to Medellin!" And he's a relative "newbie" as far as living here I think. And now that I know that, I can take everything he says with a "grain of salt." Still I find a lot of what he says is interesting. www.escapetomedellin.com/
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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 13, 2017 14:26:01 GMT -5
Checked out his website and clicked on his video about renting an a room in Envigado - yes you can save money - although we pay 900K for a 3/2.5 140 sq foot apartment there , but we have the 2 co-signers - so a lot more choices - 700K for just a room seems a bit steep but in the grand scheme of things still not that much money - my big concern would be - are they renting other rooms? - if the landlord/owner is renting 2 or 3 other rooms - I would be a bit worried with whom I would be sharing a house with - my experience is about 1/2 of these part-time temporary gringo visitors are nuts. Either they have a drug problem, woman problem or think they are some secret agent/ or next great inventor type - or maybe a combo of all 3.
I have had some of the weirdest conversations in my life with gringo visitors in Poblado. When a fellow American strikes up a conservation with me out of the blue I am many times tempted to play mute and tell them I am deaf, there is a 50-50 chance the conversation is going to go somewhere very strange.
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Post by entonces on Jan 13, 2017 14:46:27 GMT -5
The guy with the binoculars is Cartess Ross. I've watched a bunch of his videos and what I see is a happy family man living an adventure. He's full of life and I haven't caught the slightest whiff of anything untoward; could be but I sure don't see it so far. It's obvious that he's new in town but he ain't hiding that fact. He even made a video about the move down here. I like him, the wife and kids are sweet, so please give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 13, 2017 15:02:50 GMT -5
My comments were not directed at him - but just the chances you might take sharing an apartment with a variety of visitors - I would hope that the ones who come with a wife ( and family) are a little more down to earth and not just in Medellin to chase skirt or do cheap drugs.
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Post by colombiana on Jan 13, 2017 15:41:28 GMT -5
Euro chic is a joke of a description for Medellín. Euro chic normally refers to how someone dresses in Europe, like in Amsterdam. It's a look that's: casual, simple, fashionable and practical in a dressy way - with a wee bit of drama thrown in. Not too many accessories. Light make-up. A little trendy, and very urban. More neutral than colorful. Shoes are often flat or low heeled. That doesn't describe how women in Medellín dress.
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Post by billyb on Jan 13, 2017 16:11:17 GMT -5
Who know what it is, but if were going to Colombia, that would not be what I would be looking for. Would more likely find it in Milan.
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Post by barrumundi on Jan 13, 2017 17:34:45 GMT -5
Who know what it is, but if were going to Colombia, that would not be what I would be looking for. Would more likely find it in Milan. I can't say anything about the fashions in Medellin being Euro Chic but I can say the fashions in my home town are mostly stilettos (even for shopping). skin tight (one size too small) stretchy jeans with the zip at half-mast, a skimpy little top that is also too small with the bra showing as much as possible and the breasts pushed up by a bra that is an engineering marvel. I would call this look more Euro Puta than Euro Chic. Disclaimer: The above observations of course do NOT include any wives of gringos.
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Post by billyb on Jan 13, 2017 18:02:03 GMT -5
I like your description of Pacho Chic, or are you talking about the land of Oz? Still like Down under Chick.
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Post by caliconnection on Jan 13, 2017 18:36:53 GMT -5
Who know what it is, but if were going to Colombia, that would not be what I would be looking for. Would more likely find it in Milan. I can't say anything about the fashions in Medellin being Euro Chic but I can say the fashions in my home town are mostly stilettos (even for shopping). skin tight (one size too small) stretchy jeans with the zip at half-mast, a skimpy little top that is also too small with the bra showing as much as possible and the breasts pushed up by a bra that is an engineering marvel. I would call this look more Euro Puta than Euro Chic. Disclaimer: The above observations of course do NOT include any wives of gringos. It's a wonderful country.
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Post by búfalo on Jan 13, 2017 19:21:30 GMT -5
"...- even a Krispy Kreme now"
and how is this something positive?
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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 13, 2017 20:41:14 GMT -5
that was a bit tongue in cheek - I think they have a Subway and of course the Hard Rock Cafe in the same plaza - its like I never left Orlando ( the Macdonalds is just across the street)
I prefer the neighborhood in Envigado ( San Jose section), cheaper ice cream and guaro.
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Post by livinginmedellin on Jan 13, 2017 21:19:06 GMT -5
that was a bit tongue in cheek - I think they have a Subway and of course the Hard Rock Cafe in the same plaza - its like I never left Orlando ( the Macdonalds is just across the street) I prefer the neighborhood in Envigado ( San Jose section), cheaper ice cream and guaro. No Subway. There is Krispy Kreme right next to Starbucks and Hard Rock Cafe in the same building. McDonald's is not directly across the street - it's about a block away on the other side of the street. The other direction on the other side of the street is an Office Depot next to a Juan Valdez. Also down the street a few blocks there is a Burger King and Papa John's in CC La Strada.
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Post by wildstubby on Jan 13, 2017 23:06:57 GMT -5
That was one thing that struck me on my first and subsequent visits to Colombia. Was how many American businesses were there and how the local 'gente' embraced them! My very first night in Colombia, my GF in Cartagena says she is hungry and wants to go to Madonna's. I thought to myself, "Great a local culture place!" Madonna's was MacDonald's!!!!! I told her no we needed to go somewhere else. So we went across the street to Subway!
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Post by scumbuster on Jan 14, 2017 6:31:26 GMT -5
Its just a matter of time till those slender Colombianas that we are so fond of will start to look like the (supersized) counterparts here in the states. Pun intended.. lol
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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 14, 2017 7:33:02 GMT -5
If you get away from Poblado - hard to find American brands other than Subway( although more and more seem to be moving in - Pappa Johns for example), I forgot about the Starbucks in the plaza - we stay across the street at the Affinity hotel - so I got to observe Starbucks and MacDonalds ( from 20 stories up) - 2 thoughts - Starbucks had a line out the door 20 people deep at times - is it any better than Juan Valdez? Or they just want something new - I don't drink coffee so don't know - although I am a fan of granizados.
While the MacDonalds stays busy - the drive through does not get a lot of use - especially compared to the US - I guess Paisa's still want to go in.
While we will eat fast food in the States - the wife and kids have no interest in it when back in Colombia - they want street food or your typical Paisa food - which I am not sure is much healthier. Chicharron, mondongo, cunchurrria ( just the wife) sancocho ect..... (
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Post by wildstubby on Jan 14, 2017 8:46:26 GMT -5
I would like the street food also but my companions seem to have no interest in them. I would like to try the 'El Corral' once. They seem to have an 'upscale' one in the vicinity of Parque 93 in Bogota, (I saw it when going to the BBC). I was at a place just up the street from the cathedral in Sabaneta. I had fish and it was cooked a little too long. I won't paint them all with a broad brush because anyplace can have a bad day once in a while.
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Post by livinginmedellin on Jan 14, 2017 10:38:43 GMT -5
If you get away from Poblado - hard to find American brands other than Subway( although more and more seem to be moving in - Pappa Johns for example), I forgot about the Starbucks in the plaza - we stay across the street at the Affinity hotel - so I got to observe Starbucks and MacDonalds ( from 20 stories up) - 2 thoughts - Starbucks had a line out the door 20 people deep at times - is it any better than Juan Valdez? Or they just want something new - I don't drink coffee so don't know - although I am a fan of granizados. While the MacDonalds stays busy - the drive through does not get a lot of use - especially compared to the US - I guess Paisa's still want to go in. While we will eat fast food in the States - the wife and kids have no interest in it when back in Colombia - they want street food or your typical Paisa food - which I am not sure is much healthier. Chicharron, mondongo, cunchurrria ( just the wife) sancocho ect..... ( Yes, you can find Subway everywhere in the Medellín metro area. There's about 60 of them in Medellín. There's also 14 McDonald's and 11 Domino's Pizza places and 11 Dunkin' Donuts.
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Post by sedelen on Jan 14, 2017 10:52:38 GMT -5
Checked out his website and clicked on his video about renting an a room in Envigado - yes you can save money - although we pay 900K for a 3/2.5 140 sq foot apartment there , but we have the 2 co-signers - so a lot more choices - 700K for just a room seems a bit steep but in the grand scheme of things still not that much money - my big concern would be - are they renting other rooms? - if the landlord/owner is renting 2 or 3 other rooms - I would be a bit worried with whom I would be sharing a house with - my experience is about 1/2 of these part-time temporary gringo visitors are nuts. Either they have a drug problem, woman problem or think they are some secret agent/ or next great inventor type - or maybe a combo of all 3. I have had some of the weirdest conversations in my life with gringo visitors in Poblado. When a fellow American strikes up a conservation with me out of the blue I am many times tempted to play mute and tell them I am deaf, there is a 50-50 chance the conversation is going to go somewhere very strange. I hate to say I agree with you "about 1/2 of these part-time temporary gringo visitors being nuts. Either they have a drug problems, a woman problem or think they are some secret agent/ or next great inventor type- or maybe a combo of all 3." I was trying to figure out which one I fit into best, I think it might be a combo of all 3, time will tell.
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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 14, 2017 13:35:21 GMT -5
I am sure no one here would fit the category - actually most of the whack jobs I have met were more of visitors - except for one - he was a permanent resident child abuser. I will give a couple examples - was eating breakfast at the hotel one morning, the wife was sleeping in so was at a table by myself, a gringo comes up and asks to join me - since I was the only gringo there I guess, normally I am not a conversationalist at breakfast - but I said fine, he seemed OK at first - but 5 minutes in he starts telling me how everything in the world and all the reasons for anything it had the number 6 behind it - - anyway - a half an hour later I finally ditched the guy. Same trip a couple of guys stop me on ave Poblado , on a Sunday morning when everyone is out enjoying the closed road, they identified me as an gringo and came up and started talking to me in English - turns out they were born-agains and wanted me to see the light. Last trip on another Sunday morning 2 gringos stop me almost same spot - ave Poblado, they ask if I am American and them want to know the best place to meet women that is safe, I told them to try the clubs in Centro and wear lots of jewelry to impress the ladies. I guess I need to stay out of Poblado.
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Post by livinginmedellin on Jan 14, 2017 13:55:01 GMT -5
Since El Pobalado is where most of the hotels, most of the hostels and most of the furnished rentals are located almost all the gringo tourists stay there. So many are backpackers and so many are whack jobs like jabberwocky describes that I avoid El Poblado. When I first trialed living in Medellín I rented a furnished apartment in El Poblado - it didn't take long (only a few weeks) to realize I wanted to live elsewhere in the city to avoid all the gringos I don't want to associate with.
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Post by wildstubby on Jan 14, 2017 15:56:05 GMT -5
I stay in Poblablado because I feel comfortable there and I like my hotel, "Royal Medellin." Its easy to get to the malls, i.e. Santa Fe, Oviedo, and San Fernando are all within walking distance. I was never one for 'night life' and pretty much eschew the bar scene. I will go if an amiga or wingman wants to go there. I tell every woman that I dance like a tree because 'I ain't got no rhythm!'
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Post by jabberwocky on Jan 14, 2017 16:34:55 GMT -5
I like Poblado to stay in when visiting - just probably would not live there, one thing that has shocked me - probably just because I was naive - is how many tourists are there for cheap drugs - and they aren't all backpacker types - the stories I heard the last couple of trips have shocked me a bit, felt like saying - "Dude you are in your 40's - aren't you a little old to be doing coke?" I guess not. Seems mostly around LLeras, when I lived in Medellin - we very rarely would go in Lleras or the surrounding area.
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Post by ozgringo on Jan 15, 2017 6:38:01 GMT -5
I think more Euro Trash would be a better description of Medellin fashion.
Every time I have been to Medellin I have been offered drugs while walking around Poblado.
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