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Post by jabberwocky on Nov 13, 2016 19:20:00 GMT -5
La Hacienda - they have 3 locations, on Junin in Centro , in La Strada on Poblado and somewhere else Tipica Colombian food , but pretty good , ok prices, the wife , who is a bit of a mondongo expert liked theirs
PICNIC in Sabaneta, a block below the parque , chef/owner spent time in Europe I think, Italian food, great lasagna Very good sandwichs, they were just a hole in the wall restaurant with seating for about 12/, now they have opened a dining room just across the street from the kitchen , a bit odd but seems to work, not very much ambiance but great prices , the lasagna was 12 mil and the sandwich 9.
Still like Crepes and Waffles - a good change of pace with lots of choices, the ice cream is good, I like the Blanca Dama - an ice cream sundae for 6 mill can't beat that.
Always amazed by how much Paisas love their Ice cream , spent a lot of time with the granddaughter , for a four year old she can put a lot of it away.
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Post by flaco on Nov 13, 2016 20:23:20 GMT -5
Good call on Picnic, had dinner there last trip will be back soon.
I finally went to Carmen in Poblado. Obviously more of a special occasion place but for 200k it was a great experience.2 Zacapa 23 yr old neat, Korean tacos as an app,.2 arugula salads w/blue chz crumbles, toasted pecans. Combo entree consisting of Pork & Beef tenderloin with a nice demi sauce,also grilled Wahoo with a mango puree. 2 desserts and cappuccinos. For $75 dollars it was a bargain. You are allowed to bring in your own bottle of wine for a 50k corkage fee
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 7:11:44 GMT -5
La Hacienda - they have 3 locations, on Junin in Centro , in La Strada on Poblado and somewhere else Tipica Colombian food , but pretty good , ok prices, the wife , who is a bit of a mondongo expert liked theirs PICNIC in Sabaneta, a block below the parque , chef/owner spent time in Europe I think, Italian food, great lasagna Very good sandwichs, they were just a hole in the wall restaurant with seating for about 12/, now they have opened a dining room just across the street from the kitchen , a bit odd but seems to work, not very much ambiance but great prices , the lasagna was 12 mil and the sandwich 9. Still like Crepes and Waffles - a good change of pace with lots of choices, the ice cream is good, I like the Blanca Dama - an ice cream sundae for 6 mill can't beat that. Always amazed by how much Paisas love their Ice cream , spent a lot of time with the granddaughter , for a four year old she can put a lot of it away. La Hacienda is pretty good for cheap typical food, I always enjoy the one on Junin. For the life of me I can not figure out why people like Crepes and Waffles, I know its popular but I think the food is terrible with the exception of their ice cream. I've never tried PICNIC, but heard several people say they like it.
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Post by bickmed on Nov 14, 2016 8:44:58 GMT -5
Marmeleo - great food and service, with an excellent view over the city. Not cheap at all, but worth it if you want to lash out. You can also take a scenic helo ride and land at the restaurant for a special occasion.
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Post by makopp5 on Nov 14, 2016 9:47:04 GMT -5
La Hacienda is pretty good for cheap typical food, I always enjoy the one on Junin. For the life of me I can not figure out why people like Crepes and Waffles, I know its popular but I think the food is terrible with the exception of their ice cream. I've never tried PICNIC, but heard several people say they like it. That might be your individual taste, I agree, that Creps and Waffles have great and tasty food at a very good price. You can go every where in Colombia and the restaurants are every time full. La Hacieda seems to me also a good restaurant with good prices.
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Post by gallito on Nov 14, 2016 19:08:43 GMT -5
Can't see all the gushing over Crepes and Waffles;things swimming in sauce,no thanks I could do that at home...ice dream is good.
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Post by livinginmedellin on Nov 15, 2016 7:48:56 GMT -5
Some of my favorites:
In El Poblado: Carmen, La Provincia, Barcal and Oci.Mde In Envigado: Lucio Carbon, Carbone E Pasta and Chiclayo In Sabaneta: Viejo John, Pizza en Lena, Picnic In Laureles: Il Massimo, Kusi
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Post by ozgringo on Nov 16, 2016 5:07:12 GMT -5
Some of my favorites: In El Poblado: Carmen, La Provincia, Barcal and Oci.Mde In Envigado: Lucio Carbon, Carbone E Pasta and Chiclayo In Sabaneta: Viejo John, Pizza en Lena, Picnic In Laureles: Il Massimo, Kusi Carmen is my favorite. They also have one in Cartagena. Very good food.
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Post by gallito on Nov 16, 2016 14:41:39 GMT -5
Mondongo's bandeja paisa...go big once and a while. Sobrecarga de proteínas Anybody hit up "Mercado del Rio" in Poblado;edf. Bancolombia;new to the Medi foodie scene?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 14:59:13 GMT -5
Mondongo's bandeja paisa...go big once and a while. Sobrecarga de proteínas Anybody hit up "Mercado del Rio" in Poblado;edf. Bancolombia;new to the Medi foodie scene? My wife and I went to Mercado del Rio, nice selection of options. Depending on when you go I might suggest you take a cab, the parking situation was somewhat limited and we went on a Friday afternoon-cant imagine how crowded it might be on Sat or Sun.
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Post by gallito on Nov 16, 2016 15:03:46 GMT -5
...sounds like a good change from the mall food court,thanks for the update.
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Post by billyb on Nov 16, 2016 15:43:41 GMT -5
Can't see all the gushing over Crepes and Waffles;things swimming in sauce,no thanks I could do that at home...ice dream is good. Ice dream? what's that, Canadian for wet dream?
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Post by dandl93 on Nov 16, 2016 15:56:06 GMT -5
Ice Dream --- Has not snowed in Canada yet.
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Post by gallito on Nov 16, 2016 16:19:56 GMT -5
...yes wet dreams and ice cream,guilty pleasures. typo you should talk dano - jajaja
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Post by james on Nov 16, 2016 19:43:44 GMT -5
In El centro Medellin, Restaurante HATO VIEJO on Calle 47 just up the street from Carrera 52. Fine dining. The food, service, ambiance, etal is excellent. Nice wine list. Definitely not inexpensive. A meal for two with a few drinks or a bottle of wine will run you 150 - 250 mil. Worth every peso. Within 2 blocks of the GOLDEN 45, one of the nicest new (and inexpensive) hotels in Centro.
I don't understand why so many gringos are afraid to go to Med Centro at night. The accounts of problems there are really overblown. We've been here almost 10 years, and always stay at a hotel in El Centro, because most of the places where we need to shop are near there. NEVER had any problems in El Hueco, Prado, Cisneros, Minorista, day or late night. If you want to waste your money, hang in Poblado, and pay "gringo prices" for everything. But if you really want to experience Colombia, check out the downtown area. It's a lot of fun for 1/3 the price.
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Post by gallito on Nov 16, 2016 19:57:51 GMT -5
James., I think that's true in most of the Colombian cities;the gringo areas are overrated.Lots of good lunch places downtown where business types eat.
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Post by billforce on Nov 17, 2016 0:01:24 GMT -5
I have tried I think every Mexican food restaurant for the past 10 years in Medellin including every new one that comes along but have not found a decent one yet. I personally cook much better Mexican food than any restaurant I have ever tried in Colombia including Bogota. If you know of one I'm sure open to trying it out. As any California Gringo knows any Mexican restaurant worth spit know they all start with "rice and beans", if they aren't authentic and good then the rest of the menu will follow wanting. In defense of Crepes and Waffles at least they are consistent, you order a dish and do the same a year later they will be the same. Other local restaurants it seems are always changing ingredients, if an item isn't moving then they change the recipe and usually for the worst. I think in reality they are trying to ECONOMIZE on their ingredients and end up screwing it up. Two of my friends were commercial pilots and opened a pizza parlor with pretty good success as their pizza was one of the best in town. Someone talked them into using an artificial mozzarella and in three months the place was vacant and they went broke. I've tried to tell several of my friends that you never "cheapen" the ingredients, you can charge a little more and get away with it but if you CHEAPEN the ingredients or menu forget it, you will be history. I think I have watched literally hundreds of restaurants open in Colombia with acceptable success and in a few months they are broken and gone, tough business.
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Post by hinge on Nov 17, 2016 7:05:13 GMT -5
My name for it is Crepes and Awful! Every dish has the same yucky taste. I will only eat the ice cream there.
If I want a waffle , I go to the Waffle House in San Lucas CC. It is not like the waffle house resturants in the US - much better.
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Post by jabberwocky on Nov 17, 2016 8:30:50 GMT -5
Hinge - haha - now I can stay at the La Qunita on las Palmas and eat at the Waffle House - just like I never left Florida.
James - I enjoy Centro - it is definitely not for everyone, you need to enjoy crowds, noise and the occasional bum , we shop quite a bit en el Hueco, for specific items - its somewhere a gringo needs to go with a local to get the lay of the land the first time - you almost need to leave a trail of breadcrumbs to find your way out the way you came in. Have eaten at Hato Viejo thought it was pretty good - there is another on las Palmas across form the Intercontinental.
We like having a bite on Junin - the street that is closed to traffic close to Parque Bolivar - several decent restaurants and good pastry places.
I usually try to get out of there before 8pm - it changes quite a bit after that - never had had a problem other than a couple of pickpocket attempts. Before meeting my wife once went to a hole in the wall Salsa club that was a couple blocks west of the Metro stop Prado - at first I thought the chick was leading me to a dark alley to roll me, but no it was a cool old hangout on a street that was dead at night except for the club.
There is one street that runs into Botero Plaza that is all motorcycles and bicycle shops - got a pretty good buy for a little bike for the granddaughter and will get me a bike there next year.
Again though - Centro is not for everyone - I know numerous Paisas who would never go there - too dirty and crowded for them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 8:54:08 GMT -5
In El centro Medellin, Restaurante HATO VIEJO on Calle 47 just up the street from Carrera 52. Fine dining. The food, service, ambiance, etal is excellent. Nice wine list. Definitely not inexpensive. A meal for two with a few drinks or a bottle of wine will run you 150 - 250 mil. Worth every peso. Within 2 blocks of the GOLDEN 45, one of the nicest new (and inexpensive) hotels in Centro. I don't understand why so many gringos are afraid to go to Med Centro at night. The accounts of problems there are really overblown. We've been here almost 10 years, and always stay at a hotel in El Centro, because most of the places where we need to shop are near there. NEVER had any problems in El Hueco, Prado, Cisneros, Minorista, day or late night. If you want to waste your money, hang in Poblado, and pay "gringo prices" for everything. But if you really want to experience Colombia, check out the downtown area. It's a lot of fun for 1/3 the price. - JAMES James, I like going to Centro as you can find some good deals. My electric razor broke, the cost for an acceptable one in Exito was close to 300K, found exact same model in Centro for 110K. I applaud your bravery, I always get out of there before night fall. I've seen many things happen there in broad daylight so I can only imagine what happens later, don't want to end up in a chop house-could end up on the menu of Crepes and Waffles covered in sauce.
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Post by livinginmedellin on Nov 17, 2016 17:39:47 GMT -5
I have tried I think every Mexican food restaurant for the past 10 years in Medellin including every new one that comes along but have not found a decent one yet. I personally cook much better Mexican food than any restaurant I have ever tried in Colombia including Bogota. If you know of one I'm sure open to trying it out. As any California Gringo knows any Mexican restaurant worth spit know they all start with "rice and beans", if they aren't authentic and good then the rest of the menu will follow wanting. In defense of Crepes and Waffles at least they are consistent, you order a dish and do the same a year later they will be the same. Other local restaurants it seems are always changing ingredients, if an item isn't moving then they change the recipe and usually for the worst. I think in reality they are trying to ECONOMIZE on their ingredients and end up screwing it up. Two of my friends were commercial pilots and opened a pizza parlor with pretty good success as their pizza was one of the best in town. Someone talked them into using an artificial mozzarella and in three months the place was vacant and they went broke. I've tried to tell several of my friends that you never "cheapen" the ingredients, you can charge a little more and get away with it but if you CHEAPEN the ingredients or menu forget it, you will be history. I think I have watched literally hundreds of restaurants open in Colombia with acceptable success and in a few months they are broken and gone, tough business. Try El Sombrero in Sabaneta - see: www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g2079013-d4540679-Reviews-El_Sombrero_Comida_Mexicana-Sabaneta_Antioquia_Department.htmlIt's owned by a Mexican and I understand has Mexican cooks so it has authentic Mexican food. For example, I had the enchiladas mole recently and the mole was excellent. It's sometimes pretty empty as Colombians don't understand authentic Mexican food. I heard from an expat living in Bello that Guadalupe in Bello is another good Mexican restaurant but I haven't been there yet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 8:38:37 GMT -5
I have tried I think every Mexican food restaurant for the past 10 years in Medellin including every new one that comes along but have not found a decent one yet. I personally cook much better Mexican food than any restaurant I have ever tried in Colombia including Bogota. If you know of one I'm sure open to trying it out. As any California Gringo knows any Mexican restaurant worth spit know they all start with "rice and beans", if they aren't authentic and good then the rest of the menu will follow wanting. In defense of Crepes and Waffles at least they are consistent, you order a dish and do the same a year later they will be the same. Other local restaurants it seems are always changing ingredients, if an item isn't moving then they change the recipe and usually for the worst. I think in reality they are trying to ECONOMIZE on their ingredients and end up screwing it up. Two of my friends were commercial pilots and opened a pizza parlor with pretty good success as their pizza was one of the best in town. Someone talked them into using an artificial mozzarella and in three months the place was vacant and they went broke. I've tried to tell several of my friends that you never "cheapen" the ingredients, you can charge a little more and get away with it but if you CHEAPEN the ingredients or menu forget it, you will be history. I think I have watched literally hundreds of restaurants open in Colombia with acceptable success and in a few months they are broken and gone, tough business. Try El Sombrero in Sabaneta - see: www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g2079013-d4540679-Reviews-El_Sombrero_Comida_Mexicana-Sabaneta_Antioquia_Department.htmlIt's owned by a Mexican and I understand has Mexican cooks so it has authentic Mexican food. For example, I had the enchiladas mole recently and the mole was excellent. It's sometimes pretty empty as Colombians don't understand authentic Mexican food. I heard from an expat living in Bello that Guadalupe in Bello is another good Mexican restaurant but I haven't been there yet. I haven't eaten at any decent Mexican Restaurants in Medellin, I'll have to try El Sombrero. As far as TripAdvisor, for the most part I find it to be a fairly useless tool. The restaurant scene is still fairly weak in Medellin, but has been gradually getting better year by year. But to read Tripadvisor you would think you're in culinary heaven. I think the locals for the most part do not know what good food is, and the unwashed backpacking visiting crowd would eat just about anything. medium.com/choking-on-a-macaron/what-you-don-t-know-about-tripadvisor-15d31d745bdc#.98gsgjp47
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Post by jabberwocky on Nov 18, 2016 9:46:39 GMT -5
Question about Sombrero, is this the same guy who ran the Mexican restaurant across the street from the food court next to the parque in Sabaneta? He was a Mexican national and had genuine Mexican food but restaurant never seemed to have many clients, most Paisas don't like anything the is spicy, my wife thinks pepper is too hot at times, tough for good Mexican food to thrive.
I still think a good southern barbeque restaurant would thrive in Medellin.
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Post by james on Nov 20, 2016 11:46:29 GMT -5
I still think a good southern barbeque restaurant would thrive in Medellin. jabberwocky - You hit the nail on the head with that one, with emphasis on the word "good". My wife loves to cook, and the food she prepares at her restaurante is incredible. Whenever she's watching tv, it's always on one of the food channels. She's always learning to cook new things. A while back, they had a show comparing various famous Southern BBQ restaurants, and she decided to put BBQ beef and pork on her menu using her own bbq sauce. It's been a HUGE hit with her customers. The best thing is that she always tries out her new recipes at home, so when she gives me a special shopping list I know that dinner that night will be incredible. Last week, I mentioned that posters on this forum were looking for a place that served good hot wings, and last night she cooked us up some wings with her "personal hot sauce coating", and I thought I was in heaven. Today I have to go to Medellin, and she asked me to buy a wok, so she can try cooking some Chinese stuff. I can't wait to see what she comes up with. - JAMES -
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 13:02:19 GMT -5
In Sabaneta: Mama Santa is one of my favorites; Viejo Jhon used to be, but quality has gone down hill lately; Pizza en Lena (now in el parque) has some of the best pizza.
In Envigado: I enjoy dining in La Calle de la Buena Mesa (Called 30 Sur) especially at Black Pepper Steakhouse, Barbacoa Hamburger and Pizza Olivia. Donde Gloria on Calle 37 Sur is an excellent place for traditional paisa cuisine (chicharrones, morcilla, etc.)
In Poblado: Barrio Manila: El Payes has excellent Spanish food, Love El Aleman Pues Flammkuchen, and Wurst dishes. Frutas del Mar has pricey, but good seafood. El Rodizio is on Calle 11a is an excellent Brazilian style restaurant. Basilica in Parque Lleras is a good restaurant, but you need to be clear and direct with the kitchen how you like your meat done. The Pizza Olivia in Barrio Manila is just as good as the one in Envigado.
Laureles/Belen- Asado 80 does some nice traditional cut beef dishes, Las Margaritas on La 70 always seems to have quality paisa cuisine.
Centro: The food court in CC Hollywood always has some delicious cheap eats when out there shopping running errands.
El Oriente (Rionegro area): My favorite beef/ and BBQ ribs restaurant in "Filemon" on the road between La Ceja and San Antonio de Pereira is the best I've eaten with very affordable prices (and outstanding service). The food court in the new La Ceja Mall "Viva" has some excellent fast food and sit-down restaurants. Rafaellos Pizza in San Antonio de Pereira is the best pizza I've eaten in Colombia. El Patio and Divinos in San Antonio parque are some of my favorite local restaurants. Mundo's in Llanogrande is a little on the pricey side, but the beef and salad bars are excellent. Savananah steakhouse in CC Puerto Bulivar is also a good place for steaks and ribs. The Crepes and Waffles next to the Nissan dealership in Llanogrande is the best C&W I've tried to date.
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 20, 2016 18:35:06 GMT -5
James, you have a gold mine there!!! But I'm curious as to how a smokehouse would do? Similar to a Carolina BBQ or something down around scumbuster's way in Dallas would probably set the world on fire down there!!!
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Post by jabberwocky on Nov 20, 2016 20:43:12 GMT -5
James, where is your wife's restaurant?
Used to like Bartolos on the parque in Envigado but last 2 times the food was not very good, the service was always slow
Not sure if this board or on Gringos but there was a report on a gringo with a Philly cheese steak restaurant in Laurales, wonder if still there?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 23:18:24 GMT -5
James, where is your wife's restaurant? Used to like Bartolos on the parque in Envigado but last 2 times the food was not very good, the service was always slow Not sure if this board or on Gringos but there was a report on a gringo with a Philly cheese steak restaurant in Laurales, wonder if still there? Phillysteaks closed up 2 1/2 - 3 years ago. Mike, the former owner, is an ex-pat from South Jersey who tried to make a go of cheesesteaks, cheese fries and funnel cakes with a little sandwich shop near the intersection of La 80 and 33 in Laureles. He made a pretty good cheesesteak considering the materials he had to work with. Unfortunately, there are just not enough gringos down here to create significant demand for Philly-style fast food. It seems that paisas would rather stick with mondongo, frijoles, sancocho and arepas than hoagies and cheesesteaks. Not sure what happened to Mike.
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Post by dandl93 on Nov 21, 2016 6:37:00 GMT -5
wildstubby I have a wood smokehouse and to my knowledge not one Colombian has not liked any meat I have cooked in it.We have some Colombian friends that lived in the USA for years and asked me to smoke a Turkey this week for them.
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Post by jabberwocky on Nov 21, 2016 7:29:24 GMT -5
Not comparing Subway to a hoagie from Philly - but they seem to be expanding and doing well in Colombia, I like their cookies - their subs pretty much suck.
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