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Post by elexpatriado on Oct 20, 2016 12:16:35 GMT -5
As you may know, the Passport documentation for Colombian passports was changed to an electronic system on around 2012.
I went to the passport office in Manizales and ask does a passport issued in 2009 with an expiry date of 2019 have to be renewed?
They said Yes.
Passports issued in 2010 and 2011 no, passports issued earlier, Yes.
This came straight from the horses mouth (supposedly ..ja.ja.this is Colombia)
Does anyone have any different experiences? (not heresay or faint recollections, please)
I wouldnt be at all surprised..
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Post by billyb on Oct 20, 2016 12:25:09 GMT -5
I just went and got a new (chip) passport issued at SF Co Consulate, $140. My old one didn't expire until 2020, but consulate in SF said could not travel with it any longer. Good thing is that didn't need to go elsewhere for finger prints and new pics, they were done digitally at consulate, and new PP will be ready in 2 weeks. Took 10 minutes all told. Relatively painless compared to last time.
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Post by jabberwocky on Oct 20, 2016 12:36:20 GMT -5
My wife and both stepdaughters had to get new ones this year , even though theirs did not expire for several years. This was told to us by the Colombian Consulate in Orlando
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Post by coolcoil on Oct 20, 2016 15:06:38 GMT -5
For what it's worth, there have been signs posted at the Medellin airport warning about this for the last two years or so.
Here's an annoying issue we ran into this week with my son's Colombian passport. He will turn seven in February. My wife was told at the passport office that if she renews his passport now, we will have to renew it again after his seventh birthday because he will be issued an official Colombian ID when he turns seven. This would not be a big deal, but I had planned to take the family to the USA in January.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 17:23:42 GMT -5
My wife got a passport in 2009 which was good for 10 years. Last year, she was told by a Migracion Colombia offcial at JMC Airport that she needed to get a new Colombian chip passport no later than October 2015. She applied for the new passport at Alpujarra (Medellin) and picked up the new one 5 days later.
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Post by búfalo on Oct 21, 2016 13:44:44 GMT -5
They used to have a great system where the parents' info was in a minor's passpaport. This way it facilitated travel. BUT the geniuses did away with that so now one has to prove everytime that both are the parents by previously going to a notaria, while on vacay. For this reason our daughter may just do away with Colombian citizenship until she's 18 and then apply for it. If that's even worth anything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 14:56:19 GMT -5
They used to have a great system where the parents' info was in a minor's passpaport. This way it facilitated travel. BUT the geniuses did away with that so now one has to prove everytime that both are the parents by previously going to a notaria, while on vacay. For this reason our daughter may just do away with Colombian citizenship until she's 18 and then apply for it. If that's even worth anything.
Nothing is easy. A few months ago, we took our 17-year old niece to Panama. Receiving the passport at Alpujarra, was almost painless. My wife said she would follow-up on getting the permission documents together from her sister and brother-in-law. My wife is usually pretty thorough with Colombian tramites, so I did not bother to follow-up. We made copies of cedulas from all parties concerned. Her sister drafted a letter giving us permission, signed it (along with her husband) and had it notarized. When we arrived at the Migracion Colombia checkpoint, the officer just shook his head. He said the letter was no good, and informed us that there is a form on the MC website that needed to be filled out and notarized. My niece started tearing up, so he went to the back office, and checked with his supervisor. He came back with a smile on his face, and told us we were good to go. My niece received her first passport stamp, and she was on her way to Panama.
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Post by coolcoil on Oct 21, 2016 18:21:30 GMT -5
They used to have a great system where the parents' info was in a minor's passpaport. This way it facilitated travel. BUT the geniuses did away with that so now one has to prove everytime that both are the parents by previously going to a notaria, while on vacay. For this reason our daughter may just do away with Colombian citizenship until she's 18 and then apply for it. If that's even worth anything. Was your daughter born in Colombia? If so, that's not an option. You run the risk of immigration noticing her place of birth that is listed in a US passport. About five years ago a woman of Colombian birth but had been travelling from the USA to Colombia on her USA passport for thirty years was stopped from leaving the country after a Migracion officer noticed that she was born in Bogota. She could not go until she obtained a Colombian passport. If your daughter was born outside of Colombia, then I don't think you would have any problem with that path.
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Post by jafo19d on Oct 21, 2016 18:40:00 GMT -5
They used to have a great system where the parents' info was in a minor's passpaport. This way it facilitated travel. BUT the geniuses did away with that so now one has to prove everytime that both are the parents by previously going to a notaria, while on vacay. For this reason our daughter may just do away with Colombian citizenship until she's 18 and then apply for it. If that's even worth anything. Was your daughter born in Colombia? If so, that's not an option. You run the risk of immigration noticing her place of birth that is listed in a US passport. About five years ago a woman of Colombian birth but had been travelling from the USA to Colombia on her USA passport for thirty years was stopped from leaving the country after a Migracion officer noticed that she was born in Bogota. She could not go until she obtained a Colombian passport. If your daughter was born outside of Colombia, then I don't think you would have any problem with that path. When my son (born in the US) was a minor I let my mom take him to Colombia. No issues getting him in or out of Colombia without me or his mom because he's not Colombian.
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Post by bickmed on Oct 21, 2016 23:50:06 GMT -5
We have a permiso permanente para salida del pais de menores document which we had to have completed at the notary so our child could travel alone with one of us leaving the country. We need to go to the notary a few days prior to travel each time that a 1 parent travel will occur and obtain a copy for immigration. They are pretty strict on it at Bog / Med airports.
If we did not have the permanent one, each time an event was going to occur we both need to go to the Notary.
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Post by elexpatriado on Oct 22, 2016 9:11:26 GMT -5
Yeah, actually this ones a no brainer.Change was made in 2014. 2011, 2012, 2013 you dont have to change, 2010 and earlier you do.
I was being fed some false information based on hereasay to the contrary.
Now the only reason they wouldnt just let the old passports expire is $money. But why they wouldnt make everyone change their passports, I dont know.Illogical.
If they want to make more money, just make the passports good for 5 years, like other countries, and not 10. Also means more recent fotos.
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Post by búfalo on Oct 22, 2016 11:14:56 GMT -5
She was norn in colombia but can renounce citizenship.
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Post by elexpatriado on Oct 22, 2016 11:41:30 GMT -5
They used to have a great system where the parents' info was in a minor's passpaport. This way it facilitated travel. BUT the geniuses did away with that so now one has to prove everytime that both are the parents by previously going to a notaria, while on vacay. For this reason our daughter may just do away with Colombian citizenship until she's 18 and then apply for it. If that's even worth anything. Was your daughter born in Colombia? If so, that's not an option. You run the risk of immigration noticing her place of birth that is listed in a US passport. About five years ago a woman of Colombian birth but had been travelling from the USA to Colombia on her USA passport for thirty years was stopped from leaving the country after a Migracion officer noticed that she was born in Bogota. She could not go until she obtained a Colombian passport. If your daughter was born outside of Colombia, then I don't think you would have any problem with that path. Is this case with the women documented or here-say? I dont think that is legal. I have been told from several legal sources that they cant legally prevent a foreign citizen from leaving Colombia other than for child support or criminal (non-civil, non taxation) activities. Once migraciones (or more likely the airline cant remeber, it was many years ago) wouldnt let me out of the Cali airport because I over-extended my 180 day visa, and they had no means to except payment. The right way to do it was to fine me and take my mug shuts when I came back in to the country. I later found out from a a lawyer it was theoretically illegal, and I could have sued the airline if I wanted.
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