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Post by ozgringo on Oct 10, 2016 23:06:16 GMT -5
Colombia Is A Terrible Place to Drive, Traffic App Waze Confirms The app’s founders conducted a study of drivers’ experiences in 38 countries and 235 cities in the region. Colombia was ranked 31 and the city of Medellin was ranked 225. According to Colombia’s Waze spokesman Paulo Cabral, “from 14 countries in Latin America, Colombia placed 10th. m.elcolombiano.com/colombia-se-rajo-en-estudio-de-waze-XC5127176
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Post by billyb on Oct 10, 2016 23:07:56 GMT -5
Don't need Waze to see that, jaja.
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Post by gallito on Oct 10, 2016 23:16:42 GMT -5
does Waze have an app for Bogota potholes,jaja
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Post by jafo19d on Oct 11, 2016 3:11:37 GMT -5
does Waze have an app for Bogota potholes,jaja It does warn you of potholes
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Post by jabberwocky on Oct 11, 2016 5:36:46 GMT -5
Its one of the biggest things holding the economy back - getting goods distributed throughout the country is a royal pain, a couple of years ago saw a study that ranked Colombia only above Bolivia in South America as far as internal logistics.
It is a great country ( outside the cities) for a moto though - if you can get off the main road and travel alternative routes there are great rides, a lot less traffic, few trucks take the back way -of course the road conditions can vary widely.
For example - the roads up around Rio Negro, La Ceja, Retiro are pretty good , the roads that run from La Pintada to Jerico - is great, comparable to a country road in the States - only problem is you have to get there - ( to Pintada)
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Post by billforce on Oct 11, 2016 16:47:53 GMT -5
Colombia Is A Terrible Place to Drive, Traffic App Waze Confirms The app’s founders conducted a study of drivers’ experiences in 38 countries and 235 cities in the region. Colombia was ranked 31 and the city of Medellin was ranked 225. According to Colombia’s Waze spokesman Paulo Cabral, “from 14 countries in Latin America, Colombia placed 10th. m.elcolombiano.com/colombia-se-rajo-en-estudio-de-waze-XC5127176I.ve decided my next car in Colombia is a used Hummer fitted with a Train "cow catcher" on the front and Rubber fenders.
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Post by sedelen on Oct 11, 2016 17:55:11 GMT -5
A moto might be good on the back roads with little traffic, in the city, we'll I've seen too many moto accidents for me to ride carefree.
As far as driving a car here, in the city of Medellin, I'd rather take the bus or taxi and let my car sit at home, except on rare occasions.
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Post by billforce on Oct 11, 2016 18:19:30 GMT -5
Steve, what car did you end up buying here, maybe a Sherman Tank?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 19:23:56 GMT -5
Our beemer has those low profile run flat tires---already ruined one tire with the potholes----- The only place for a replacement tire is the dealer--- as distributors do not carry run flats---- At 500,000 pesos a tire last March----- Should have bought a jeep wrangler here.
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Post by sedelen on Oct 11, 2016 20:25:33 GMT -5
Steve, what car did you end up buying here, maybe a Sherman Tank? A Sherman tank would have probably been the wiser choice. What I ended up getting was a 2011 Renault Sandero Stepway, pretty much fully equipped. It's about the size of your Toyota Corolla. I did not get an automatic as I have a Gringo friend whose had 2 Renaults with automatics and had bad transmissions in both, the newest one being a 2014 Renault Duster with low miles. Who knows, maybe it's the driver, but I didn't want to take the chance. Anyway, it gets me out to El Carmen from time to time to see our old friend the "Ranger." I quit driving it in Medellin, except on rare occasions, too many close calls.
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Post by gallito on Oct 11, 2016 20:56:58 GMT -5
does Waze have an app for Bogota potholes,jaja It does warn you of potholes Nice, do they rate them for difficulty, -5 for craters.When they fill with water, there's a hidden risk and the traffic swerving to avoid them is another. Colombian highways are race tracks;especially Sunday nights,when they close the oncoming lane into Bogota,Pikes Peak hill climb with a passing lane.
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Post by billyb on Oct 11, 2016 22:33:19 GMT -5
Its one of the biggest things holding the economy back - getting goods distributed throughout the country is a royal pain, a couple of years ago saw a study that ranked Colombia only above Bolivia in South America as far as internal logistics. Totally agree. Though it has made some progress on that front the last few years, still has a long way to go.
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Post by billforce on Oct 12, 2016 13:48:36 GMT -5
The least expensive method of transporting merchandise is by rail but President Samper stopped all the trains. He said that he wanted to give more jobs to truck drivers, a train only employed a few people but trucks nationwide would employ thousands. Of course he didn't factor in the cost of thousands of trucks, fuel, time, highways, air pollution etc. but like most Liberals he had a one track mind and not wise. A train can move merchandise 100 times more efficient.
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Post by billforce on Oct 12, 2016 14:55:22 GMT -5
Steve, what car did you end up buying here, maybe a Sherman Tank? We looked at this car when we bought the Toyota, seemed like a good buy. Colombia infrastructure is not set up for automatic transmissions, I have no idea if Renault automatics are junk or not. My Chevy pickup in the U.S. (500 H.P.) had an indestructible automatic. I have never owned an automatic in Colombia. If my family (inherited) were not spread out all over Colombia like horse manure and if I lived in the city there is no way I would own a car here, cabs are cheap, buses the same and the Metro is cheap. Lately my wife and I have had Dr. appointments in some questionable areas of the old city. Instead of wandering around looking for an address in questionable neighborhoods we park the car in a guarded parking area like Premium Plaza and take a cab to the DR., safer and a hell of a lot better than getting into a p!ssing match (with my wife) regarding directions, parking etc. No way in hell for a buck or so I'm taking a chance on being robbed or beaten.
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Post by tubes on Oct 12, 2016 18:14:25 GMT -5
The least expensive method of transporting merchandise is by rail but President Samper stopped all the trains. He said that he wanted to give more jobs to truck drivers, a train only employed a few people but trucks nationwide would employ thousands. Of course he didn't factor in the cost of thousands of trucks, fuel, time, highways, air pollution etc. but like most Liberals he had a one track mind and not wise. A train can move merchandise 100 times more efficient. You have to remember that the trains that they abandoned were steam locomotives which used masses of coal, lots of manpower and ran at low speeds on old, rough tracks. I am pleased to see that some attempt is being made to bring modern rail services back.
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Post by sedelen on Oct 12, 2016 19:04:23 GMT -5
We looked at this car when we bought the Toyota, seemed like a good buy. Colombia infrastructure is not set up for automatic transmissions, I have no idea if Renault automatics are junk or not. My Chevy pickup in the U.S. (500 H.P.) had an indestructible automatic. I have never owned an automatic in Colombia. If my family (inherited) were not spread out all over Colombia like horse manure and if I lived in the city there is no way I would own a car here, cabs are cheap, buses the same and the Metro is cheap. Lately my wife and I have had Dr. appointments in some questionable areas of the old city. Instead of wandering around looking for an address in questionable neighborhoods we park the car in a guarded parking area like Premium Plaza and take a cab to the DR., safer and a hell of a lot better than getting into a p!ssing match (with my wife) regarding directions, parking etc. No way in hell for a buck or so I'm taking a chance on being robbed or beaten. The only real benefit to having a vehicle here is when you make purchases that you don't want to haul around on a crowded bus, but we've been using a taxi for that if the stuff will fit. I'm familiar with Premium Plaza as I live fairly close by. Finding decent parking downtown can be a nightmare in itself, no doubt. Yeah, usually all the decent places to shop have their own parking plazas, Home Center, PriceSmart, Exito, and San Diego mall except you have to pay to park there, and the people parking there are aggressive, I was going to back into a parking place there, like everyone else does down here and a Twingo pulled directly into my spot as I was backing up, hate that parking lot.
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Post by wildstubby on Oct 13, 2016 10:47:14 GMT -5
One of the things I miss about the US and enjoyed the most while in Europe was reliable passenger rail service! In England, France, and Spain, you could set your watch to the schedules, in Italy it was generally off by 15 minutes! Going between two cities albeit they were 10 or a hundred miles apart was great and cheap. I would like to see it in Colombia as well as its return to the US but I know I am dreaming.
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Post by jabberwocky on Oct 13, 2016 12:57:19 GMT -5
They keep crashing in the US, about 2 weeks ago one forgot to stop while pulling into a station in NJ, just keep going right through the end of the line, I don't get it how hard is it to drive a train?
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Post by tubes on Oct 13, 2016 14:33:42 GMT -5
One of the things I miss about the US and enjoyed the most while in Europe was reliable passenger rail service! In England, France, and Spain, you could set your watch to the schedules, in Italy it was generally off by 15 minutes! Going between two cities albeit they were 10 or a hundred miles apart was great and cheap. I would like to see it in Colombia as well as its return to the US but I know I am dreaming. The big snag with European railways is that the fast trains often cost more than budget flights. OK, the train gets you from city-centre to city-centre while the airports are frequently well outside... They are already working to re-open some of the Colombian railways, and already the Buenaventura – Cali – Zarzal – La Tebaida route has test trains running, but obviously with a priority for freight. The lines that carry coal to the North Coast have been running for years and there are plans for a major new line Bogotá – Santa Marta.
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Post by sedelen on Oct 14, 2016 20:07:07 GMT -5
They keep crashing in the US, about 2 weeks ago one forgot to stop while pulling into a station in NJ, just keep going right through the end of the line, I don't get it how hard is it to drive a train? They were supposed to have automatic brakes put in, this one in New York didn't. The conductor of course doesn't remember anything, the train was going twice the speed as it should have been, and brakes were applied just before impact. It's easy with the facts that are known to allege what happened, I think, but proving it might take some work. I think the conductor might have dozed off. www.cbsnews.com/news/hoboken-train-crash-investigation-hampered-heavy-damage/Just had a passenger train derail when it collided with another work train on the same track in Long Island. Being investigated now. www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-train-derailment-idUSKCN129015
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