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Post by suba on Sept 30, 2016 18:33:16 GMT -5
I live in the North of Bogotá, in a compound where the residents are supposed to be well educated, and they certainly have the money to ensure they should be.
The compound has lots of green areas, our balconies overlook little parks inside the compound that are well tended. I had noticed that in one particular area there were always a few bags of dog s##t lying on the ground - I assumed the dog owners were just too lazy to walk the extra 5 yards and put them in the designated bin.
I was out a couple of nights ago and heard a crash at the opposite end of the park, as if something was falling through the trees. I walked over and it turns out that the filthy b######s were throwing the bags of dog s##t out of the windows rather than bring their dogs out to exercise.
I shouted up a few choice words and called security over, they went up and are going to fine them.
As we were walking back the guard told me that this wasn't the first time, one woman in another section of the compound used to throw her dirty toilet paper out in carrier bags and expected the gardeners to just pick it up.
I went out the next morning and the poor gardeners had ladders up the trees and were trying to dislodge bags that had stuck in the branches.
The poor guys must think they tend the gardens of barbarians.
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Post by gallito on Sept 30, 2016 19:30:05 GMT -5
At least they mark the landmines.
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Post by barrumundi on Sept 30, 2016 19:38:59 GMT -5
Absolutely disgusting suba They are most likely tenants rather than owner-occupiers. I hope they get the boot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 7:13:05 GMT -5
Somehow, that does not surprise me. There is no shame in many corners of Colombia. Fortunately, it appears your have an administration that will do something about it.
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Post by jabberwocky on Oct 1, 2016 7:48:34 GMT -5
Only commenting on Medellin - but found Paisas in the areas I lived in Enivigado and Sabaneta to to very averse to littering - before moving to Colombia I lived in Panama for a year - Colombia seemed like paradise compared to there - Panamanians would throw everything on the ground - in the city , country , small towns.
In Sabaneta they have street sweepers with brooms that come along the streets at 5 am in the morning cleaning up = they were even sweeping up leaves in the parque- never seen that in US parks ( not with a broom).
First time I was in La Ceja - I was stunned at how clean the town was - did not see a piece of trash on the ground - so I guess littering varies by towns and cities.
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Post by coolcoil on Oct 1, 2016 10:08:39 GMT -5
Only commenting on Medellin - but found Paisas in the areas I lived in Enivigado and Sabaneta to to very averse to littering - before moving to Colombia I lived in Panama for a year - Colombia seemed like paradise compared to there - Panamanians would throw everything on the ground - in the city , country , small towns. In Sabaneta they have street sweepers with brooms that come along the streets at 5 am in the morning cleaning up = they were even sweeping up leaves in the parque- never seen that in US parks ( not with a broom). First time I was in La Ceja - I was stunned at how clean the town was - did not see a piece of trash on the ground - so I guess littering varies by towns and cities. La Ceja is indeed pretty clean, though I have seen plenty of people toss down their trash. We have a team of guys who manually sweep the central parque and the streets around it starting early in the morning and going all day. You do see a fair bit of litter downtown from very late in the evening when all of the bars are open until when it's cleaned up by around 7 a.m. the next morning. I do have to say, though, that even the areas not served by the street sweeping team stay pretty clean. The thing that annoys me here is horse poop. On some weekends, we get a lot of horses in town, and especially at the places where they gather you get a lot of crap on the streets.
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Post by elexpatriado on Oct 1, 2016 10:23:39 GMT -5
I live in the North of Bogotá, in a compound where the residents are supposed to be well educated, and they certainly have the money to ensure they should be. The compound has lots of green areas, our balconies overlook little parks inside the compound that are well tended. I had noticed that in one particular area there were always a few bags of dog s##t lying on the ground - I assumed the dog owners were just too lazy to walk the extra 5 yards and put them in the designated bin. I was out a couple of nights ago and heard a crash at the opposite end of the park, as if something was falling through the trees. I walked over and it turns out that the filthy b######s were throwing the bags of dog s##t out of the windows rather than bring their dogs out to exercise. I shouted up a few choice words and called security over, they went up and are going to fine them. As we were walking back the guard told me that this wasn't the first time, one woman in another section of the compound used to throw her dirty toilet paper out in carrier bags and expected the gardeners to just pick it up. I went out the next morning and the poor gardeners had ladders up the trees and were trying to dislodge bags that had stuck in the branches. The poor guys must think they tend the gardens of barbarians. No Suba, this is a typical third world issue. But in Arab Countries you wont see this, they think Dogs are dirty. But they will trow other equally disgusting things out in the street or public areas. Last time I was on a bus between Manizales and Honda (very curvy), the women just threw their puke bags out of the window. You get quite enraged, wanna say something, but it will do no good, and just make unwanted enemies. Its not the Country side of Essex, nor a small town in Saskatchewan we are dealing with here. We can always move back to the old country. But then they are getting over run with immigrants with the same attitude. And liberal voters who think its all great "Multiculturalism" Or just relax , shake our heads and laugh at it.
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Post by elexpatriado on Oct 1, 2016 10:26:02 GMT -5
Absolutely disgusting suba They are most likely tenants rather than owner-occupiers. I hope they get the boot. Now where did you buy those "Rose coloured glasses"
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Post by elexpatriado on Oct 1, 2016 10:28:21 GMT -5
Only commenting on Medellin - but found Paisas in the areas I lived in Enivigado and Sabaneta to to very averse to littering - before moving to Colombia I lived in Panama for a year - Colombia seemed like paradise compared to there - Panamanians would throw everything on the ground - in the city , country , small towns. In Sabaneta they have street sweepers with brooms that come along the streets at 5 am in the morning cleaning up = they were even sweeping up leaves in the parque- never seen that in US parks ( not with a broom). First time I was in La Ceja - I was stunned at how clean the town was - did not see a piece of trash on the ground - so I guess littering varies by towns and cities. Your 100% right. Compared to other Latin American and even more so, other developing countries, Colombians are not bad at all. Manizales is quite clean too. But a lot of it is because of cheap labour to clean up other peoples mess. Attitude of individuals is only 50% there. Long way to go before Manizales is Like Victoria, Canada , Christchurch. New Zealand or somewhere similar Go to India, man. Same with the driving. Another thing...Bogota is the dirtiest city I have been to in Colombia in places, and Rolos are generally looked down upon by other Colombians, particularly Paisas from the Eje Cafetero..and this is just one of the reasons.. Only my observation from extensive travel inside and outside of Colombia.. Everything is relative.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 10:52:18 GMT -5
The results of multiculturalism-------tribalism-------and religious sects
Now all being welcomed to the U.S. and Europe
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 16:12:40 GMT -5
Only commenting on Medellin - but found Paisas in the areas I lived in Enivigado and Sabaneta to to very averse to littering - before moving to Colombia I lived in Panama for a year - Colombia seemed like paradise compared to there - Panamanians would throw everything on the ground - in the city , country , small towns. In Sabaneta they have street sweepers with brooms that come along the streets at 5 am in the morning cleaning up = they were even sweeping up leaves in the parque- never seen that in US parks ( not with a broom). First time I was in La Ceja - I was stunned at how clean the town was - did not see a piece of trash on the ground - so I guess littering varies by towns and cities. Yes, overall Colombia is quite clean. In most cases, the public areas and streets are more tidy than one would encounter in the US. Normally, most Colombians seem to have an aversion to littering. However, I've noticed a lack of consideration for fellow residents in all of the urbanaciones I've lived in. It's not unusual for residents to blatantly ignore conviviencia rules and regulations (eg pick up after your dog, close the chute door after use, don't leave kids unattended around the pool area, etc.) It's part of the "rules don't apply to me" mentality that many people seem to possess.
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Post by buenopues on Oct 1, 2016 16:36:53 GMT -5
I was in Exito today waiting to use the ATM machine. It was my turn next and there were fifteen people behind me. Yesterday was quiencena so everybody was taking money out. A forty something perra came up along side me and said "would you do me a favor and let me go next? It's that I have to go to Bogotá and..." I just said "no" but wished I'd read her the riot act in a load voice. Oh well next time...because there will be a next time.
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Post by bickmed on Oct 1, 2016 23:58:27 GMT -5
Try this on for size. We have a very small apartment in a resort type complex in Santa Fe de Antioquia. The pools are great, however the Colombians turn into animals when visiting - non stop music all night at full blast, no respect for other people at all, and 3 times the pools have been closed due to people shitting in them. 1 was an older baby (maybe use a waterproof nappy or the baby pool??) so possibly an excuse there, the other two were adults (during the day). Unbelievable. And I was ''fined'' 220,000 pesos for not attending a ''compulsory'' meeting (still unpaid) - these people receive no fines.
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