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Post by scumbuster on Apr 26, 2016 20:59:48 GMT -5
Venezuela Elections Board Opens Door to Presidential Recall Vote CARACAS – Venezuela’s National Election Council, or CNE, agreed on Tuesday to initiate the process for convening a referendum to recall President Nicolas Maduro. The parties comprising the MUD opposition coalition now will have to collect the signatures of some 198,000 people – 1 percent of the country’s 19.8 million registered voters – and later present about another 4 million for the CNE to set a date for the referendum. Opposition leader and former presidential candidate Henrique Capriles said earlier that the marches on the CNE offices scheduled in all cities would be cancelled if the CNE agreed to authorize the start of the process. The constitution establishes that the referendum may be requested halfway through the term in office of any official, a threshold Maduro crossed this month after beating Capriles three years ago in the election for the 2013-2019 presidential term. If the opposition wins the referendum this year, the CNE will have to convene new elections, but if it prevails in 2017 Maduro will be replaced until 2019 by his vice president, Aristobulo Isturiz. “If the recall referendum is not this year, it doesn’t make any sense. The same government doesn’t interest us. It’s either this year or there’s no recall,” said Capriles on Monday. The MUD, which won control of congress in last December’s legislative elections, is asking Maduro to resign voluntarily and also in the National Assembly is pushing a constitutional amendment to shorten the 6-year presidential term, something the Supreme Court warned on Monday will not apply to the current president laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=2410848&CategoryId=10718
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Post by suba on Apr 26, 2016 21:12:13 GMT -5
Regardless of the number of votes it will take a shove (a violent one) from the generals to move Maduro. If he's willing to give the countries wealth away to the army then Capriles better be willing to do the same.
Either way there's a civil war brewing.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 27, 2016 9:27:09 GMT -5
The "Generals" are the first in line to get paid..How do you think the regime has lasted so long?
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Post by suba on Apr 27, 2016 9:53:19 GMT -5
Which part of my post didn't you understand?
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Post by scumbuster on Apr 27, 2016 10:44:32 GMT -5
No doubt the Elections Board just moved up in the line of those getting paid.
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Post by billyb on Apr 27, 2016 10:55:14 GMT -5
Didn't I read that the Supreme Court, which is stacked with Chavistas, nullified the motion?
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Post by billyb on Apr 27, 2016 11:32:24 GMT -5
If somebody had made a movie 20 years ago about what is happening in Venie today, it would have been classified as a fantasy/comedy/horror. I don't think if you were trying to destroy a country on purpose, that you could do a better job than the Chavistas are doing. I wonder if desi still thinks that's the path Colombia should have followed?
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Post by livinginmedellin on Apr 27, 2016 11:39:21 GMT -5
Regardless of the number of votes it will take a shove (a violent one) from the generals to move Maduro. If he's willing to give the countries wealth away to the army then Capriles better be willing to do the same. Either way there's a civil war brewing. If a civil war it could get messy and many more refugees coming to Colombia. There is already a flood of Colombian migrants fleeing Venezuela. There was already a big sucking sound with many of the best educated (especially in oil) leaving Venezuela. Maybe they also should all leave as the lights are already going out in Venezuela...
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Post by scumbuster on Apr 27, 2016 12:19:17 GMT -5
If anyone wants to read a good book on what is happening in Venezuela read "Atlas Shrugged" I always thought the US was heading down this road but Venezuela is the last chapter of the book.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 5:54:00 GMT -5
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Post by suba on May 3, 2016 18:21:14 GMT -5
The problem is that all the government have to do is delay things for the rest of this year - which shouldn't prove that difficult - then the vice president takes over and nothing changes. The government have to validate every signature for instance - I doubt they'll just say " yes, they're all fine - on you go and kick out the guy who pays us all our money"
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Post by gallito on May 3, 2016 18:42:34 GMT -5
Regardless of the number of votes it will take a shove (a violent one) from the generals to move Maduro. If he's willing to give the countries wealth away to the army then Capriles better be willing to do the same. Either way there's a civil war brewing. If a civil war it could get messy and many more refugees coming to Colombia. There is already a flood of Colombian migrants fleeing Venezuela. There was already a big sucking sound with many of the best educated (especially in oil) leaving Venezuela. Maybe they also should all leave as the lights are already going out in Venezuela... The big oil refugees left long ago;they saw the socialist writing on the wall...Pacific Rubiales set up shop in Colombia abajo el cumbre de Uribe.Read further and you'll see the pain wasn't without gain. www.elespectador.com/noticias/investigacion/agonia-de-pacific-articulo-612413Colombians/socialists and bums in turn fled to Venezuela seeking handouts from the Chaves camp.The revolving door of misery cont...
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Post by wildstubby on May 4, 2016 5:49:23 GMT -5
All I can say about Caracas and the rest of Venezuela, is what a shame!!! We stopped there in 1984 before heading to the North Atlantic for exercises. Awesome city, fantastic women! I remember being on Shore Patrol the last night in port and we had to rent 2 buses to round up the rest of the 'crew' who were standing in line at the local brothel! Clearly a demonstration that 'power corrupts; absolute power absolutely corrupts!!!!"
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Post by billyb on May 6, 2016 10:51:54 GMT -5
I just read that Venie, in 1993, had 50 generals, and now there are 4,000. That might help explain why Chavistas are still in power.
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Post by elexpatriado on May 6, 2016 12:09:08 GMT -5
I just read that Venie, in 1993, had 50 generals, and now there are 4,000. That might help explain why Chavistas are still in power. Hmm...You think?
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Post by billyb on May 6, 2016 12:10:40 GMT -5
That's a lot of pockets to have to line.
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Post by scumbuster on May 6, 2016 12:55:51 GMT -5
That's a lot of pockets to have to line. Yea...But its also lot or protection when you need it.
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Post by billyb on May 6, 2016 13:23:59 GMT -5
Until the money runs out, and I think they are just about there
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Post by billyb on May 8, 2016 22:00:48 GMT -5
It seems Venie can now not even afford to pay the forign printers of its currency, since they can't, liko most other things, print their own. And these printers want payment in dollars, not worthless Bolivars. Otherwise they could just skim their payment off the top. So pretty soon, along with not having anything to buy, if they did find something worth buying, they would not have the cash to pay for it.
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Post by gallito on May 8, 2016 22:32:02 GMT -5
Infamous Paramilitary Leader Gunned down by Venezuelan Army...a shining star on the front page news The gang “Los Picures” was involved in a series of hired killings, kidnappings, and vehicle hijackings, even exercising control in local construction mafias and carrying out extortion amongst campesino groups in the countryside. “They were extremely well organised, this gang aimed to create ‘exclusive zones’ in Guarico and they were achieving it,” said state Governor Ramón Rodríguez Chacín on Tuesday. The politician went on to state that the gang emerged as a splinter group from previous governor Luis Enrique Gallardo’s inner circle of bodyguards and alleged that they had links to far-right organisations, as well as to the political parties “The Popular Will” and “Democratic Action”. Party spokespeople have vehemently denied the allegations and denounced them as “irresponsible”. venezuelanalysis.com/news/11961
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Post by gallito on May 8, 2016 22:40:24 GMT -5
Here's another beauty;notice the arrestors and arrestees.Nico looks like he's trying to cover his tracks... Venezuela Indicts High Level Electricity Official for Cocaine Trafficking "The indictment follows a string of arrests of high level officials in Venezuela’s state airline CONVIASA on corruption charges. Last week, the ex-head of transportation for the airline, Leonardo Sanchez Ramirez, was charged with trafficking of influences and association to commit crimes for his alleged role in the overcharging of domestic and international tickets. Also charged with the same offenses was the general manager of ground operations, Alberto Rafael Bogarin, as well as the manager of platform operations, Luis Alberto Salvatore. The general manager of commercialization, Francisco Salvador Mannuzza, and the charter group agent Adrian Enrique Semprun were, for their part, charged with extortion, wrongful access to technology systems, and association to commit crimes. All officials were arrested by Military Counter-Intelligence Directorate agents in February. venezuelanalysis.com/news/11949
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Post by suba on May 9, 2016 12:12:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Oliver Stone is still telling the world about the Chavez success story. I tried to watch that "South of the border"movie he made last night, impossible, he practically got down on his knees to Chavez.
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