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Post by scumbuster on Apr 19, 2016 21:08:54 GMT -5
Colombia kicked off a campaign on Monday to raise local awareness about the importance of keeping tourist sites clean. Vice-Minister of Tourism Sandra Howard presented the “Clean Colombia”campaign in the capital Bogota where she and other government employees handed out leaflets to tourists and locals alike. Meanwhile, workers picked up of three metric tons of litter lying around on Bogota’s central Bolivar Square, one of the city’s most important tourist sites. The idea of the campaign is to increase awareness about, for example, littering, especially in areas frequently visited by tourists. Additionally, the campaign seeks to increase garbage collection, which according to the ministry has already in the removal of 250 metric tons of rubbish scattered around tourist sites along the Caribbean coast and Melgar, a town popular among local tourists southwest of Bogota. Colombia is becoming increasingly popular among tourists. The trade ministry is trying to make sure the country’s relatively new international tourism industry and locals, increase efforts to make sure foreign visitors leave the country with a good impression. colombiareports.com/colombia-steps-efforts-maintain-tourist-sites-clean/
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Post by billyb on Apr 19, 2016 21:14:07 GMT -5
'Bout time. The worst ltterbugs are in the Coast, Cali not far behind. Cleanest are the Eje/Paisa towns.
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Post by búfalo on Apr 20, 2016 10:25:14 GMT -5
Sandra Howard? Doesn't sound like a Colombiana.
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Post by gallito on Apr 20, 2016 12:41:37 GMT -5
Sandra Howard Taylor is a native of Providencia Island hence the English sounding name.Maybe our new member @inca can elaborate;it would be interesting to get an Islander's perspective.
I just looked at her bio;I recall meeting her 3 years back at a new Cartagena boutique hotel.We chatted briefly about San Andres tourism and she gave me a tourist brochure;maybe I still have it somewhere.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 20, 2016 13:10:14 GMT -5
Colombia is still cleaner than other Latin American and developing countries. I understand its because the Cartel´s used to execute litterbugs.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 20, 2016 13:11:51 GMT -5
Sandra Howard Taylor is a native of Providencia Island hence the English sounding name.Maybe our new member @inca can elaborate;it would be interesting to get an Islander's perspective. I just looked at her bio;I recall meeting her 3 years back at a new Cartagena boutique hotel.We chatted briefly about San Andres tourism and she gave me a tourist brochure;maybe I still have it somewhere. Lot of people from the Islands have English names. Even some who dont speak Engish
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Post by gallito on Apr 20, 2016 13:30:25 GMT -5
Sandra Howard Taylor is a native of Providencia Island hence the English sounding name.Maybe our new member @inca can elaborate;it would be interesting to get an Islander's perspective. I just looked at her bio;I recall meeting her 3 years back at a new Cartagena boutique hotel.We chatted briefly about San Andres tourism and she gave me a tourist brochure;maybe I still have it somewhere. Lot of people from the Islands have English names. Even some who dont speak Engish English names are also prevalent along Central America's Caribbean coast;Honduras,Costa Rica,Panama.Workers from the canal settled there. Dominican Republic;Samaná,U.S. families settled there and descendants are known as Samaná Americans...Green,Smith are popular surnames.
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Post by caliconnection on Apr 20, 2016 14:58:16 GMT -5
Colombia is still cleaner than other Latin American and developing countries. I understand its because the Cartel´s used to execute litterbugs. The cartel does have a use then.
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Post by barrumundi on Apr 20, 2016 18:37:39 GMT -5
Colombia is still cleaner than other Latin American and developing countries. I understand its because the Cartel´s used to execute litterbugs. Why did they stop?
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Post by barrumundi on Apr 20, 2016 18:39:08 GMT -5
'Bout time. The worst ltterbugs are in the Coast, Cali not far behind. Cleanest are the Eje/Paisa towns. I have found (around here at least) that it is the tourists that are the worst offenders.
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Post by billyb on Apr 21, 2016 8:48:22 GMT -5
You mean those Yanqui and other gringo bastards, or Colombians?
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Post by barrumundi on Apr 21, 2016 9:09:28 GMT -5
Rant no. 1 ( billyb ...I know you are only joking) The yanquis and other gringo bastards are the cleanest and tidiest people here and often pick up rubbish left by Colombian tourists and locals. I have had some serious altercation with tourists and locals about their attitude to rubbish. There are many things I like about Colombia and also there are many things that I don't like about Colombia .........but something I really HATE about Colombia is the fact that the Colombians have zero responsibility for their own shit. ........and I do mean SHIT. I have picked up dirty nappies (diapers) and shitty toilet paper from the street many times. Each time I do it (pick up the rubbish) I swear I am not going to do it again .........but then I think well who else is going to do it ?
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Post by barrumundi on Apr 21, 2016 9:19:37 GMT -5
Rant no. 2
From the OP article:
"Colombia kicked off a campaign on Monday to raise local awareness about the importance of keeping tourist sites clean."
So the government has the attitude that it needs to address the garbage problem in tourist areas. Why? Probably because it directly relates to revenue.
What about the garbage problem in ALL areas of Colombia that are not tourist areas? What about the illness and disease caused by masses of putrid rubbish that is breeding disease carrying flies and other insects.
The poor areas are the worst affected and they are also the more vulnerable to disease and illness because of lack amenities ......... but solving that problem is not going to get the pollies any money in their pockets .........so it doesn't happen.
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Post by scumbuster on Apr 21, 2016 10:54:18 GMT -5
They need to make a Colombian version of this. Play it on TV every hour.
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Post by gallito on Apr 21, 2016 11:14:06 GMT -5
Garbage along the coastal highways id deplorable especially bad anywhere near a town or city.We took a detour near Santa Marta's zona franca;passing through the neighbourhood we saw piles of garbage on road sides.
Where we stayed I tried to clean up the beach and water,removing plastic...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 14:53:31 GMT -5
trashy, trashy people as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 14:54:33 GMT -5
'Bout time. The worst ltterbugs are in the Coast, Cali not far behind. Cleanest are the Eje/Paisa towns. I have found (around here at least) that it is the tourists that are the worst offenders. you are living with tri-color blinders on my friend.
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Post by suba on Apr 23, 2016 9:12:58 GMT -5
I was sat behind a bus yesterday when the drivers companion (whatever those guys are that sit up front) opened up his window and deposited the remains of his lunch all over the car that was sat alongside - wrappers and serviettes and bits of chicken bone - they seriously don't give a toss about anyone else.
Until Colombians even acknowledge the presence of other people in their vicinity then the country will remain as it is, with everyone simply ignoring the welfare of everyone else.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 23, 2016 15:06:57 GMT -5
trashy, trashy people as a whole. You havent been to many developing countries have you? In India,there are people taking Dumps on the side of the highway..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 21:54:19 GMT -5
trashy, trashy people as a whole. You havent been to many developing countries have you? In India,there are people taking Dumps on the side of the highway.. quite a few as a matter of fact. however, i see it on a daily basis here. you cannot go more than a week without seeing the colombian pisser on the side of the road. you want shit, just try walking anywhere close to the metro in medellin. homeless use the area as their own personal toilet. i've seen a pristine beach in the guajira totally trashed by a single family within a matter of hours. they left all their trash including plastic bottles, uneaten food, paper items and empty bottles of ron and aguardiente scattered all over the beach and rolling in the surf. disgraceful
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Post by gallito on Apr 25, 2016 22:18:30 GMT -5
...dog crap is another problem,they don't clean up after them either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 6:50:52 GMT -5
...dog crap is another problem,they don't clean up after them either. you have to call a spade, a spade. not sure why folks here get up in arms when someone criticizes 'the culture or people of colombia'. hell, there are alot of things about the usa culture and people i find agitating and regularly criticize. to be honest, there are alot of things i actually like about colombia, but living here full time is maze of ever changing BS that has to be tolerated or hit head-on like a freight train. why be a cheerleader? people thinking about a move to colombia that have found this small dark corner of the internet should hear the truth, both good and bad. advice such as - 'learn to go with the flow' or 'blend in' can only take you so far in this world. if you are quick to call BS in your homeland, you should be quick to call BS here as well. the more you know should be the most coveted advice given on forums such as these.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 26, 2016 8:44:16 GMT -5
You havent been to many developing countries have you? In India,there are people taking Dumps on the side of the highway.. quite a few as a matter of fact. however, i see it on a daily basis here. you cannot go more than a week without seeing the colombian pisser on the side of the road. you want shit, just try walking anywhere close to the metro in medellin. homeless use the area as their own personal toilet. i've seen a pristine beach in the guajira totally trashed by a single family within a matter of hours. they left all their trash including plastic bottles, uneaten food, paper items and empty bottles of ron and aguardiente scattered all over the beach and rolling in the surf. disgraceful Anther reason why Manizales is better than the rest of Colombia. Not perfect, but you rarely see this type of stuff, and if you do, it is cleaned up the next day. Still Colombia is no different, and many cases not as bad as other developing countries. When I was in Capurgana, the messier beach was on the Panama side.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 11:16:25 GMT -5
quite a few as a matter of fact. however, i see it on a daily basis here. you cannot go more than a week without seeing the colombian pisser on the side of the road. you want shit, just try walking anywhere close to the metro in medellin. homeless use the area as their own personal toilet. i've seen a pristine beach in the guajira totally trashed by a single family within a matter of hours. they left all their trash including plastic bottles, uneaten food, paper items and empty bottles of ron and aguardiente scattered all over the beach and rolling in the surf. disgraceful Anther reason why Manizales is better than the rest of Colombia. Not perfect, but you rarely see this type of stuff, and if you do, it is cleaned up the next day. Still Colombia is no different, and many cases not as bad as other developing countries. When I was in Capurgana, the messier beach was on the Panama side. that is because the kuna indians of the san blas islands north dump all their trash into the ocean and it drifts down to that point. they will always have a trash problem on that side of the isthmus. that is actually the best beach in the capugana area. the other ones (colombian side) are small and insignificant. i looked at buying some property there a few years ago right on the water with my own little beach. thank god i did not make that mistake.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 26, 2016 12:11:30 GMT -5
Anther reason why Manizales is better than the rest of Colombia. Not perfect, but you rarely see this type of stuff, and if you do, it is cleaned up the next day. Still Colombia is no different, and many cases not as bad as other developing countries. When I was in Capurgana, the messier beach was on the Panama side. that is because the kuna indians of the san blas islands north dump all their trash into the ocean and it drifts down to that point. they will always have a trash problem on that side of the isthmus. that is actually the best beach in the capugana area. the other ones (colombian side) are small and insignificant. i looked at buying some property there a few years ago right on the water with my own little beach. thank god i did not make that mistake. Yeah, it is a nice little beach despite the mess. It would take a couple guys with nets a few hours to clean it up, actually. I thought it was maybe people throwing things out of the boats.
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Post by gallito on Apr 26, 2016 12:42:29 GMT -5
When I was in Capurgana, the messier beach was on the Panama side. that is because the kuna indians of the san blas islands north dump all their trash into the ocean and it drifts down to that point. they will always have a trash problem on that side of the isthmus. that is actually the best beach in the capugana area. the other ones (colombian side) are small and insignificant. i looked at buying some property there a few years ago right on the water with my own little beach. thank god i did not make that mistake. Think of it this way there wasn't any trash before white man came or in the Kuna's case Euro trash. Which brings us full circle back to Colombia;there is a now a new push to eliminate plastic bags in supermarkets. In essence backwards is the new in.
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Post by buenopues on May 10, 2016 14:45:25 GMT -5
I went to Juanchaco/Los Ladrilleros (near Buenaventura) one time on a puente. Being a puente of course it was packed. I was absolutely astounded at the trash scattered around outside the hotels. It was like both the Colombia visitors and hotel employees were virtually blind to it. As I went around with the small group I was with checking prices I looked down at the entrance to one hotel and saw a tampon on the floor...used. I can't imagine that foulest slums of Mogadishu could be any worse.
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