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Post by coolcoil on Apr 29, 2016 9:29:48 GMT -5
Elex...there's nothing healthy about the salmon they sell in Colombia - it's Chilean farmed salmon,btw wild Canadian salmon are healthy. ...you are partially correct,fyi in your article there several contradictions about net pen salmon and their effects on your health and the environment. ... Why is farmed salmon not your best choice for salmon? whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=dailytip&dbid=30... In comparison, according to EPA guidelines, it is considered safe to eat one serving (220 grams) of some types of wild salmon from Alaska or British Columbia eight times a month, which would meet the American Heart Association recommendation to consume 168 to 336 grams of fatty cold water fish per week." in essence you're partially correct nevertheless wild salmon taste better and it's healthier. I get frustrated when I see scientifically unsupported comments like this. And, despite the information presented in both the articles linked by you and suba, in the end you still end up claiming that wild salmon is healthier. Neither one of those articles presented any evidence that showed wild salmon is healthier nor that it's better for the environment. Yes, they cited some things about wild salmon that may be healthier, but also aspects of farm raised that are healthier and neither was quantified to indicate that one is better than the other. It's also telling that the purportedly anti-farm raised article had to reach back to a 2004 study to support their weak health claims. As for the environment, while farms certainly have an impact on the local environment, wild fishing does too. Most of us are old enough to recall the days when salmon fisheries were highly depleted and salmon was a rare luxury rather than a staple. But, what really bugs me is the virtue signaling. The I-only-eat-wild-salmon stuff is more about being elite than being healthy. "Look at me - I'm willing to spend 3X what you do on food to reduce my cancer risk by an immeasurably tiny amount." Heck, If everybody switched to wild salmon, then it would become so expensive that only the very wealthiest could eat it. For me, if farm-raised weren't available, then I might eat salmon once a year rather than several times a month. And, I really don't see much difference between the two. I occasionally have wild-caught salmon, and though I notice a slight difference, I don't prefer it to farm-raised. Frankly, if we really were concerned about elevated health risk levels from the choices we make, then we wouldn't have moved to Colombia.
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Post by caliconnection on Apr 29, 2016 13:38:28 GMT -5
"in essence you're partially correct nevertheless wild salmon taste better and it's healthier."" The EPA state that the level of contaminants in farmed salmon from Chile is 60 time less than that considered harmful, that's not me posting an opinion. As for wild salmon tasting better that depends on personal taste, what the farmed salmon was fed on and how it's served - most people arguing the case against farmed salmon smoke their fish which isn't exactly healthy. Wild salmon certainly tastes a lot better than farmed salmon here in BC.
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Post by gallito on Apr 29, 2016 17:05:34 GMT -5
"in essence you're partially correct nevertheless wild salmon taste better and it's healthier."" The EPA state that the level of contaminants in farmed salmon from Chile is 60 time less than that considered harmful, that's not me posting an opinion. As for wild salmon tasting better that depends on personal taste, what the farmed salmon was fed on and how it's served - most people arguing the case against farmed salmon smoke their fish which isn't exactly healthy. Wild salmon certainly tastes a lot better than farmed salmon here in BC. It also helps if you catch it yourself,doesn't get any fresher and it beats buying it from a store...god knows how long it has been sitting there.If you are buying salmon you can tell if it's fresh by smelling it before buying;fresh salmon and seafood smells similar to the sea,bad salmon smells like ammonia. CC,give me a heads up before you and la sra come over;I'll try and catch a fresh one... suba you are welcome to come too;I see you're an excellent cook,we'll put you in charge of the cooking.
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Post by gallito on Apr 29, 2016 17:38:26 GMT -5
D1 joins the $billion club;receipt totals keep growing... The little giant of Colombian supermarkets achieved in a year,double its turnover due to the opening of more stores in several Colombian city neighborhoods...this and it's low pricing strategy.D1,operated by the firm Koba Colombia and Valórem-holdings,the Santo Domingo family holds a 60% stake. Koba Colombia revenue almost doubled during 2015,from 591,764 million pesos-1.16 billion pesos,an increase of 96.6 percent.Ara is the only grocery chain which topped it,turnover rose 119 percent,although sales only totaled 393,000 million pesos in 2015. www.losdatos.com stats indicated,last year D1 made 100 startups and went from 319 to 419 outlets,an increase of 31.3 percent. scumbuster , barrumundi - make sure to send them an advertising bill! Read more in Spanish: www.eltiempo.com/economia/empresas/tiendas-d1-factura-mas-de-1-billon/16553965
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Post by livinginmedellin on Apr 29, 2016 19:21:48 GMT -5
D1 joins the $billion club;receipt totals keep growing... The little giant of Colombian supermarkets achieved in a year,double its turnover due to the opening of more stores in several Colombian city neighborhoods...this and it's low pricing strategy.D1,operated by the firm Koba Colombia and Valórem-holdings,the Santo Domingo family holds a 60% stake. Koba Colombia revenue almost doubled during 2015,from 591,764 million pesos-1.16 billion pesos,an increase of 96.6 percent.Ara is the only grocery chain which topped it,turnover rose 119 percent,although sales only totaled 393,000 million pesos in 2015. www.losdatos.com stats indicated,last year D1 made 100 startups and went from 319 to 419 outlets,an increase of 31.3 percent. scumbuster , barrumundi - make sure to send them an advertising bill! Read more in Spanish: www.eltiempo.com/economia/empresas/tiendas-d1-factura-mas-de-1-billon/16553965I'm sure D1 has Exito pretty worried. D1 can encircle the big Exitos with a bunch of their small neighborhood grocery stores that don't cost that much to open. For example in Sabaneta, Exito has two big box stores and D1 has 5 small neighborhood stores that are fairly busy much of the time, especially after work gets out for the day. I talked to a manager of one of the D1 stores and he said that D1 plans to open many more stores and they are scrambling to find staff since they are opening so many stores.
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Post by gallito on Apr 29, 2016 19:42:31 GMT -5
D1 has followed the model of the corner tienducha,one on every corner;work the niche,the customers will follow.Which comes to mind how can la familia tienda compete with the big boys,surely they'll go the way of the dodo,much like little chinese stores back home. The only way they'll be able carve off a little chunk is to keep a stock of fresh produce,a few eggs,meat bones,housewives in a pinch,quick delivery...then there's there's Carulla;Robin the Hood!
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Post by billyb on Apr 30, 2016 0:36:43 GMT -5
I don't know, or care, about all the scientific nuances between wild and farmed Salmon, but I think plain common sense would dictate that fresh caught wild Salmon would taste better and be better for the enviroment thanfarmed salmon, genetically modified or not, since that is what nature intended, and I tend to put nature's wisdom over humans'. But having said that, I don't neccessarily think farmed salmon is bad or bad tasting, specially if it is from one of the more "conscientious" farming industries, from such countries as Scotland, Norway and Chile to name a few. I would never eat any fish farmed in China or some other Asian countries as they are literally raised in a toilet. And as mentioned above, farmed fish do tend to make it affordable for many that otherwise wouldn't be able to enjoy them, and also protect the natural fish stocks from being depleted were they to be the only source. Do not, however, eat Chinese farm raised Talapia, ever, if you know what is good for you.
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Post by jabberwocky on Apr 30, 2016 7:56:37 GMT -5
Although I have not shopped at one I noticed a new one in Envigado close to our apartment last trip, but I am wondering how it is going to effect the smaller hole in the wall stores - almost never shopped Exito for food stuff . a little when I lived in Sabaneta but in Envigado we shop at the smaller stores - might have to go to 3 or 4 of them but all within a block and a half just off the parque, one for vegatables and fruits, one for meat, one for chicken and one for eggs , bread staples and such. I wonder how they will fare vs D1.
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Post by barrumundi on Apr 30, 2016 8:18:09 GMT -5
I don't know that D1 is going to be a serious problem for the other tiendas. We don't (yet) have a D1 in the small town where I live but I am looking forward to their arrival because they stock different stuff to the average run-of-the-mill local supermarkets and tiendas.
There is probably only 6 or 8 products I buy from D1 and I only buy them from D1 because they aren't available in my local shops. The fact that they are cheap is a bonus but the main drawcard for me is the availability.
The pricing of the products in our small town supermarkets and tiendas is quite good. I have done some price comparisons between the likes of Jumbo, Exito, Carulla, Carrefour etc. and our local family run supermarketsand have found that staples like coffee, cheese, yoghurt etc. are quite often up to 20% cheaper than the big stores.
Having said that, the bigger stores do sometimes have some great specials so I suppose the best plan is to shop around.
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Post by jabberwocky on Apr 30, 2016 10:41:03 GMT -5
Are they are many in smaller towns - or just cities? - in La Pintada where we frequent often - it has about 6,000 people - the stores there are limited and small - prices aren't bad but they could use some competion, a lot of food products are not available - but not sure if it makes economic sense for their business model.
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Post by jafo19d on May 2, 2016 15:36:20 GMT -5
D1 has followed the model of the corner tienducha,one on every corner;work the niche,the customers will follow.Which comes to mind how can la familia tienda compete with the big boys,surely they'll go the way of the dodo,much like little chinese stores back home. The only way they'll be able carve off a little chunk is to keep a stock of fresh produce,a few eggs,meat bones,housewives in a pinch,quick delivery...then there's there's Carulla;Robin the Hood! It's impressive how they are expanding. I live and work in Cedritos (Bogotá) and two years ago I stumbled into one nearby. Now I see them all over the place and had two open near me.
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Post by coolcoil on May 2, 2016 17:02:26 GMT -5
Are they are many in smaller towns - or just cities? - in La Pintada where we frequent often - it has about 6,000 people - the stores there are limited and small - prices aren't bad but they could use some competion, a lot of food products are not available - but not sure if it makes economic sense for their business model. We have two in La Ceja, which has a population of about 40,000. I would suspect that a town of 6,000 could support a D1, as they seem to be designed to serve a pretty small radius. For one thing, they are pretty small, maybe 20 to 30% of the size of the food section in an Exito, if that. Also, the ones that I've seen have either no parking or very limited parking, so it does not appear they are expecting people to come from all over.
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Post by barrumundi on May 2, 2016 17:16:51 GMT -5
Whoever is choosing the sites seems to be doing a good job from what I have seen. Most of the sites I have found are just outside the main commercial area (lower rent) but not too hard to find or too hard to get to.
Our favourite D1 (so far) is in Zipaquira which is notorious for lack of available parking but we always manage to find a good parking spot within metres of D1's front door.
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Post by livinginmedellin on May 2, 2016 17:18:49 GMT -5
Are they are many in smaller towns - or just cities? - in La Pintada where we frequent often - it has about 6,000 people - the stores there are limited and small - prices aren't bad but they could use some competition, a lot of food products are not available - but not sure if it makes economic sense for their business model. We have two in La Ceja, which has a population of about 40,000. I would suspect that a town of 6,000 could support a D1, as they seem to be designed to serve a pretty small radius. For one thing, they are pretty small, maybe 20 to 30% of the size of the food section in an Exito, if that. Also, the ones that I've seen have either no parking or very limited parking, so it does not appear they are expecting people to come from all over. There's five D1s in Sabaneta, which has a population of about 50,000. The closest D1 to La Pintada may be in Caldas, which has two D1s. La Estrella has three.
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Post by dandl93 on May 3, 2016 7:03:05 GMT -5
Whoever is choosing the sites seems to be doing a good job from what I have seen. Most of the sites I have found are just outside the main commercial area (lower rent) but not too hard to find or too hard to get to. Our favourite D1 (so far) is in Zipaquira which is notorious for lack of available parking but we always manage to find a good parking spot within metres of D1's front door. barrumundi we need to contact D1 and have one here in Pacho.It would be great not to have to go to Zipa for wine jajajajajajaj
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Post by scumbuster on May 3, 2016 8:41:30 GMT -5
Yes.. The little wine shop in Pacho is temporarily out of business.
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Post by tubes on May 3, 2016 11:37:43 GMT -5
Here in Manizales, the D1 stores are easily outnumbered by the rapidly expanding Ara chain. Oddly I always seem to come out of either store almost empty handed.
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