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Post by elgringuito on Sept 12, 2021 0:21:44 GMT -5
Hola, all. I am hoping to arrive in Colombia in about three weeks' time, and I would like to start growing CBD as soon as possible. (I am mildly autistic, and CBD helps me more than I can explain.) I thought I would grow indoors under LEDs, for security, and because they make the house smell great! And because for some reason, the strains I like seem to do better indoors. For long term I want to let the girls get tall, vegging them indoors in fabric pots for about 4 months before turning the lights over (usually 70/30 indicas or so). However, I thought that to start with, maybe I could start with a (first) batch of CBD autos while I let the other girls get tall. I had a hard time finding a seed bank who would send CBD auto seeds to Colombia, where I could also pay them (as some of the vendors wanted me to send MoneyGram, etc., and I don't have access here), but I found a vendor with some CBD autos that look good. (Not pure CBD, but 2:1 CBD/THC, which should work nicely.) Has anyone ever grown autos in fabric pots indoors, under lights? About how big do they get (height/width), and about how big of a fabric pot do you need? I used to grow full sized plants indoors in 5 gallon pots, but that was a bit small, so I bumped it to 7 gallons, and that was just about ideal (for full-sized plants). So does maybe 3 gallon pots seem about right? And about how tall and how wide do they get? The only thing I know about autos is that you can leave them on 18/6 (or whatever), and not to top the cola bud (because they don't like that). It would be great if someone knows about how tall and wide they get, so I can plan my grow space. Thanks.
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 12, 2021 12:25:14 GMT -5
Hmm... the internet says 3 gallons. I guess I will go with that.
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 14, 2021 23:46:18 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Sept 16, 2021 16:32:07 GMT -5
I had always heard 3 gallon autos and 5 gallon full size.. But that's old from years ago. I haven't kept up with the new growing techniques.
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 18, 2021 19:25:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I am not a master grower or anything. Only, I used to grow full sized indoor in 5G fabric pots, and it seemed to work real well. But then I moved them outdoors to a greenhouse, and some of them would get a little too dry, so I had to water twice a day in summer. I think it was a water limitation, rather than a soil limitation. So I switched to 7G pots for the next grow and the problem was solved.
Since I could grow full-sized in 5G, 3G for autos made perfect sense to me, but then I read this in the "growing autoflowering" article:
"It is important to stress that autoflowering plants start flowering when their roots reach the bottom of the pot. The longer it takes for the root of the plant to reach the end of the pot, the taller the plant will be, so you will get a higher yield."
That was news to me. I always thought it took x number of days for an auto, and that was it--not size of the roots. But if the root length makes a difference in the overall size of the plant, then I should update my thinking?
The article also recommends an 18-liter pot, taller than wide. That is 4.5 gallons. So I thought I would go with 5G (because what is an extra .5G of dirt)?
Also, I think maybe autos are getting larger than they used to be (because of breeding), so they might need a bigger pot than before (but I don't know that).
I also used to use an 18/6 light schedule for my full-sized plants indoors, but the other article emphasizes 20/4 for autos (because that simulates summertime conditions in the north, where Ruderalis comes from), and apparently more light hours equals bigger yields.
"They will give much larger buds with a 20/4 photoperiod over the whole grow!"
So it seems like a bigger pot means it will take a little longer, but will offer a bigger yield.
That might be all messed up, but that is what I am thinking at this exact moment.
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Post by scumbuster on Sept 19, 2021 7:42:58 GMT -5
That all sounds logical. Keep us updated when you have results. I had 3-19% CBD <1% THC seeds from about 5 years ago and got 1 of the seeds to germinate. I plan to try to get about 6 clones off it when it gets big enough. CBD supposed to be really good for inflammation and because I run a lot I want to try it, especially after my weekly long runs.
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 22, 2021 18:02:23 GMT -5
CBD is good for inflammation, but a lot of them are indica ones, which always give me couchlock. But I hear they have some new CBD sativas? I am eager to give those a try. (I want to try crossing a 30:1 CBD Sativa medical auto with another motivating sativa auto.)
On another thread you said you are scouting out beachfront property in the Equalizer? If I may ask, are there any difficulties getting one's "CBD needs" met there? Or not really, because no one bothers you?
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 23, 2021 10:59:07 GMT -5
That all sounds logical. Keep us updated when you have results. I had 3-19% CBD <1% THC seeds from about 5 years ago and got 1 of the seeds to germinate. I plan to try to get about 6 clones off it when it gets big enough. CBD supposed to be really good for inflammation and because I run a lot I want to try it, especially after my weekly long runs. Also, I am just curious, did you store those in the fridge (or freezer)? Or at room temperature? (I am trying to gauge about how long stored seeds will last...) Thanks!
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Post by scumbuster on Sept 23, 2021 13:12:31 GMT -5
I stored them in the fridge but was wondering myself if the freezer would have been better. Its getting big enough now to see the leaves are really odd shaped. Its not looking like a cannabis plant at this point. Will see if they straighten out as it grows.
As for Ecuador.. Possession is decriminalized for 12 grams or less. But they leave you alone here. Your only supposed to grow with a special permit with tons of hoops to jump through but it seems no one does that. CBD is legal and that's all I am growing.
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 26, 2021 20:21:30 GMT -5
I stored them in the fridge but was wondering myself if the freezer would have been better. Its getting big enough now to see the leaves are really odd shaped. Its not looking like a cannabis plant at this point. Will see if they straighten out as it grows. As for Ecuador.. Possession is decriminalized for 12 grams or less. But they leave you alone here. Your only supposed to grow with a special permit with tons of hoops to jump through but it seems no one does that. CBD is legal and that's all I am growing. Again I am not a big expert or anything, but I was reading up on it, so I will just pass along what I read (but they were reputable sites). Most of the sites were split as to whether a freezer or fridge was better, but most said the freezer. However, the bigger thing seemed to be that whether you use the fridge or the freezer, you want them kept in total darkness, and you do not want the temperature to fluctuate, if you can help it. I am not sure what it is about the seeds being exposed to light, and I am not sure what it is about the temperature fluctuating, but apparently light and the temperature fluctuating degrade the seeds. So they said to put it in something airtight (like a ziploc), and then put it in something that blacks out the light (like I am not sure what. Maybe an old mylar bag?) and then to tuck it in a freezer (or fridge) that you do not use much. There seemed to be some consensus that if the temperature does not fluctuate, and the seeds are not exposed to light, they will last a lot longer than if they are in a fridge that you are in and out of every day. That was news to me.
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 26, 2021 20:34:09 GMT -5
www.royalqueenseeds.com/content/36-how-to-preserve-seedsI thought this one was helpful. They said that the fridge is better than the freezer, but they say it is key to have it in an airtight container, and then kept away from light. I guess the seeds react to light and changes to temperature by trying to germinate, so every time the door is opened and the temperature changes, and they get light, they try to germinate, which exhausts all of their strength over time. They said if you keep it in an airtight (ziplock), and then use something to keep away the light they can stay good for a very long time.
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Post by elgringuito on Sept 26, 2021 21:04:13 GMT -5
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Post by elgringuito on May 10, 2022 14:58:27 GMT -5
Ok, to be responsible, I need to correct something I said earlier about autos. I am still pretty much a new grower, and am still learning about growing. However, I heard it from an expert on 420 that autos do NOT automatically flower when the roots hit the sides or the bottom of the pot (as I was incorrectly told before). Rather, they just start flowering at about three or four weeks old, no matter what. So, depending on the auto, if you up-pot, and build a solid root mass, then three gallon pots might be plenty for one of the smaller, quicker indica-hybrid autos (60-75 days to finish), whereas one of the sativa hazes might want a 5 gallon pot (because they take 3-4 months to finish up).
Overall, I can't wait to go back to photoperiods--but autos is what I have for now, so I am glad that I have them. It seems like a lot to pay the same prices for auto seeds, and you only get a fraction of the yield. I ordered some auto regular seeds, so hopefully I can start making my own 1:1 seeds, and get out from under the cost.
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Post by elgringuito on May 10, 2022 14:58:55 GMT -5
Other than that, it is great to have access to something! (At least I am not dry! Haha!)
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