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Post by mudd on Aug 13, 2021 16:29:08 GMT -5
my friends brother and wife who were vaccinated 4 months ago.... just got covid..... so dont think the vaccine is full-proof lol
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 13, 2021 16:46:45 GMT -5
Which vaccine?
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Post by tubes on Aug 13, 2021 17:52:54 GMT -5
The same thing happened to me just after my second Sinovac vaccine but the effects were mild and I was up and about in a few days.
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Post by mudd on Aug 14, 2021 6:51:11 GMT -5
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Post by mudd on Aug 14, 2021 18:00:58 GMT -5
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 14, 2021 19:18:26 GMT -5
I was expecting the Sino vac because of the efficacy. Of course not everyone is going to have 100% and not everyone will be hypersensitive to the shot(s).
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 14, 2021 20:02:33 GMT -5
I was expecting the Sino vac because of the efficacy. Of course not everyone is going to have 100% and not everyone will be hypersensitive to the shot(s). SinoVAc is goooood , has an excellent safety profile... and best of all its NOT an mRNA vac. Re: hyper-sensitivity If you had Covid or have Covid.. getting a VAC is just stupid ! and can result in immediate hypersentivity and screwed up immune system going forward
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 14, 2021 22:16:59 GMT -5
charlie640, I'm all in favor of being able to choose whether you do or do not want the vaccine. Personally, I couldn't take a chance. My wife spent 14 months in the hospital. During that time she suffered about 3 bouts of pneumonia and from being bedridden, also suffered from atelectasis in both her lungs. We both got the Pfizer shots because that was what the hospital was offering at the time. As stated earlier, there will be people hypersensitive to it. Fortunately for me and the wife all we had was sore arms. 2 close co-workers had the Covid-19 virus. They both wished that they received the shot to minimize the effects of it. The greatest pain was that in the lungs that when you took a breath it felt like you were ripping them apart. One fellow was almost intubated because his SPO² dropped to 80%. Fortunately he began to pull out of it and didn't have to go on the ventilator. One co-worker's daughter's fiance was admitted and died after 14 days. He was only 28. I don't know if he had any co-morbidities or other health issues. Having worked for big pharma for almost 30 years, I got an insight on what was occurring. We got out of the 'race' early but were able to use our vaccine lines to produce vaccines for the other pharmaceuticals. Whether you get the shot or not, I hope that you and your loved ones don't get the virus!
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Post by charlie640 on Aug 15, 2021 10:58:01 GMT -5
charlie640, I'm all in favor of being able to choose whether you do or do not want the vaccine. Personally, I couldn't take a chance. My wife spent 14 months in the hospital. During that time she suffered about 3 bouts of pneumonia and from being bedridden, also suffered from atelectasis in both her lungs. We both got the Pfizer shots because that was what the hospital was offering at the time. As stated earlier, there will be people hypersensitive to it. Fortunately for me and the wife all we had was sore arms. 2 close co-workers had the Covid-19 virus. They both wished that they received the shot to minimize the effects of it. The greatest pain was that in the lungs that when you took a breath it felt like you were ripping them apart. One fellow was almost intubated because his SPO² dropped to 80%. Fortunately he began to pull out of it and didn't have to go on the ventilator. One co-worker's daughter's fiance was admitted and died after 14 days. He was only 28. I don't know if he had any co-morbidities or other health issues. Having worked for big pharma for almost 30 years, I got an insight on what was occurring. We got out of the 'race' early but were able to use our vaccine lines to produce vaccines for the other pharmaceuticals. Whether you get the shot or not, I hope that you and your loved ones don't get the virus! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow,,, So sorry to hear this! NO Doubt COVID can be deadly. Counter to what you might think.. I am not an Anti-Vaxer , but I am totally against the mRNA EUA and mandating people to take an Investigational Vaccine without COMPLETE informed consent. The FDA rules say that the should be NO EUA if there are Effective Treatments ( which there are) and if the eficacy is POOR... which it is with the Delta variant. I doubt an Experimental Vaccine would get an EUA when it is 40% effective, get the jabbing goes on.
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Post by wildstubby on Aug 15, 2021 13:13:24 GMT -5
Oh and for the record, the wife was in the hospital due to a botched laparoscopic procedure which ultimately caused them to have to remove her stomach. She just about died during that ordeal and then afterwards she was in respiratory and cardiac arrest for 6 minutes. Several interventional radiological procedure to prevent her from bleeding to death and waiting for about 12 months to repair the fistulas in her intestines. She is finally home and we are finally beginning to return to our honeymoon!
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Post by claroqueno on Sept 5, 2021 18:18:53 GMT -5
This site apperars to have become a haven for a cabal of far right winger Americans living in Colombia espousing everything that was ever tweeted by Donald Trump including the notion that the Covid 19 virus is a hoax of some sort and vaccinations against it should be rejected. So it's not surprising that most expats who used to post here have now moved over to the Colombia Expat site where political opinions are balanced.
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Post by mudd on Sept 6, 2021 7:40:01 GMT -5
This site apperars to have become a haven for a cabal of far right winger Americans living in Colombia espousing everything that was ever tweeted by Donald Trump including the notion that the Covid 19 virus is a hoax of some sort and vaccinations against it should be rejected. So it's not surprising that most expats who used to post here have now moved over to the Colombia Expat site where political opinions are balanced. so trump had something to do with this??? (((( my friends brother and wife who were vaccinated 4 months ago.... just got covid..... so dont think the vaccine is full-proof lol )))
guess you need to go over to colombia expat
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Post by elexpatriado on Sept 6, 2021 8:35:08 GMT -5
This site apperars to have become a haven for a cabal of far right winger Americans living in Colombia espousing everything that was ever tweeted by Donald Trump including the notion that the Covid 19 virus is a hoax of some sort and vaccinations against it should be rejected. So it's not surprising that most expats who used to post here have now moved over to the Colombia Expat site where political opinions are balanced. Funny I never read anyone saying COVID was a hoax.. Not everyone here is an anti-vaxxer or even an ani.MNRa vaxxer And not eveyone is a "Trumpster" although there are a lot of them Matter of fact;I dont even think Trump , despite all his faults was an "anti-vaxxer"..look at "operation warp speed"
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Post by elexpatriado on Sept 6, 2021 9:04:51 GMT -5
One thing about this site that is good is they will only censor people if they make openly racist or homophobic remarks (and I am not talking about the modern "Woke" version) , or make vile personal repeated attacks or threats. This unlike many of he other Expat sites, and even worse in the MSN ( the Marxist , Fascist Canadian state news service, CBC being the worst perpretrator)
I dont agree with everything Charlie, Scum, or Mudd or conversely Tubes say, but I will defend thier rights to say it. We are all adults and we can make our own decisons as what is fake information or not. We dont need "Big Brother" telling us.
The problem is with COVID, who has the time or inclination to go through the latest medical studies and publications determine which is "fake" , which has been Peer reviewed, how long did the study last, how big is the sample base,how refutable is the medical association doing the study, etc.
I agree that the Vaccines now are "experimental" , espescially the mRNA types..and the goal posts keep "changing". Previously , Phizer was the best option. Now they are saying that the efficacy drops after several months, and a "booster" will be needed (espescialy with the "Delta" variant--which is another sensationalizedexaggeration by the MSN, espescially in Canada and other Nanny states).
But the Vaccines are the best option at this point in time, based on best available information. In the future that may change.
I also agree not enough attention has been given to detailed studies of Ivermectin as treatment of COVID. Previous studies have occured in developing countries, and have turned out to be highly flawed and /or inconclusive, or lacking in completeness. A serious study is being implemented by the university of Oxford. Hopefully this will clear things up, but hopefully, by the time it is finished, so will the pandemic, 100%.
But I see a bigger problem with people with COVID or even to prevent COVID taking large doses of the crap and causing serious injury to thier health. I know I wouldnt doe it. Despite the flaws, I will take the vaccine multiple times before I inject myself with that crap people get straight from the veterinarian store.
Besides, we are going to need to be vaccinated in order to travel and do a lot of everyday things in life, at least for a period, wheher we like it or not. Vaccine mandates are something I am dead set against ethically and philisophically, but that is the way it is going to be, at least for a while. It is what it is.
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Post by prospector9 on Sept 7, 2021 15:20:34 GMT -5
I dont believe the vaccines are the best option out there now at all. The best option IMHO is to avoid them like the plague. (pun intended) I smelled something fishy from the start, and as Ive read and studied this thing more and more now for a year and a half, have never had to change my mind about anything except that , yes, now it appears very likely that the virus was a "gain of function" development project started in the U.S. and then moved by Fauci and Co to Wuhan to get it well out of their hair and prepare for launching. I no longer believe it was accidental. All engineered and part of the plan....The Plandemia......How many of you have seen the Judy MIkovitz Phd (virologist, ex employee of NIH) movie, The Plandemia? And now with the Americas Frontline Docs, and the World Alliance of Doctors and Dr. Luc Montegnier Phd, Nobel Prize winner for HIV on board my school of thought, I feel even more secure in my conviction NOT to take the poison needle. Approx 80 or 90% of Israel has been vaccinated, and now new hospitalizations account for approx 85% of all cases.......Its clear to me that the jab gives you the disease, even if you were completely clean beforehand.......I never paid much attention to mask wearing or protocol and cruised fairly effortlessly between latin countries wherever it was the most free and relaxed and will continue to do so....Colombia once again in my sights and plans......
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Post by elexpatriado on Sept 8, 2021 16:45:09 GMT -5
I dont believe the vaccines are the best option out there now at all. The best option IMHO is to avoid them like the plague. (pun intended) I smelled something fishy from the start, and as Ive read and studied this thing more and more now for a year and a half, have never had to change my mind about anything except that , yes, now it appears very likely that the virus was a "gain of function" development project started in the U.S. and then moved by Fauci and Co to Wuhan to get it well out of their hair and prepare for launching. I no longer believe it was accidental. All engineered and part of the plan....The Plandemia......How many of you have seen the Judy MIkovitz Phd (virologist, ex employee of NIH) movie, The Plandemia? And now with the Americas Frontline Docs, and the World Alliance of Doctors and Dr. Luc Montegnier Phd, Nobel Prize winner for HIV on board my school of thought, I feel even more secure in my conviction NOT to take the poison needle. Approx 80 or 90% of Israel has been vaccinated, and now new hospitalizations account for approx 85% of all cases.......Its clear to me that the jab gives you the disease, even if you were completely clean beforehand.......I never paid much attention to mask wearing or protocol and cruised fairly effortlessly between latin countries wherever it was the most free and relaxed and will continue to do so....Colombia once again in my sights and plans...... Like I said..everybody has the right to say what they want..even if any sane educated person can clearly see they are a crazed tin-foil hatted nutbar...any peson with an IQ over 20 can figure out what is the rubbish..why does a censor have to ban it? LOL
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Post by elexpatriado on Sept 8, 2021 17:19:25 GMT -5
"Its clear to me that the jab gives you the disease, even if you were completely clean beforehand" So "they" are purposely injecting half the worlds population with COVID as part of the "Plandemic" is that right? OOKAYYY An ex maid of mine with a grade 8 Colombian education believes the same thing..before the vaccine she was sure it was th PCR tests that were doing it. Funny with 2 shots and all the PCR test I took, I should have been dead a Looong time ago. Here is Judy Mikovitzs resume www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/08/plandemic-judy-mikovits-coronavirus/Another crack pot But I guess it is just more MSN conspiracy fake news, right? I have known a few Crack Pot PHds myself Had to fire one (physics PHd) who was my translator in Kazakhstan because he was drunk all the time
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Post by wildstubby on Sept 9, 2021 5:09:26 GMT -5
All PHd means is Piled High and Deep!
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Post by prospector9 on Nov 22, 2021 21:05:40 GMT -5
Ok, so you smart guys dont see that this is a depopulation exercise? I understand it is difficult to digest. For me too. But I have been studying these people for a long time and I feel like I know them well. If you havent yet connected the dots, and understand the sequence and progression of this Big Lie, then I would venture to say that your I.Q. is much less than 100 (which is average), but may well be higher than 20 which is absolute moron.........Do your homework.......dig deeper.......its all there......this cartel has been working towards this agenda for a long time.......And if you are stupid or ignorant enought to believe the propaganda and accept the vaccine for a virus (which is always there, always has been, always will be)which doesnt even touch 99% of the population then maybe you deserve to go the way of the dinosaurs........buena suerte.....maybe it hasnt hit you yet.....but it will........theres the short term, mid term and long term.........Its a kill shot.......pure and simple....and those who it doesnt kill will be 5/6G transhumanist puppets.........So go for it.......but put your affairs in order...the odds for your long term survival are not very good......
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Post by mudd on Nov 23, 2021 9:17:25 GMT -5
Ok, so you smart guys dont see that this is a depopulation exercise? I understand it is difficult to digest. For me too. But I have been studying these people for a long time and I feel like I know them well. If you havent yet connected the dots, and understand the sequence and progression of this Big Lie, then I would venture to say that your I.Q. is much less than 100 (which is average), but may well be higher than 20 which is absolute moron.........Do your homework.......dig deeper.......its all there......this cartel has been working towards this agenda for a long time.......And if you are stupid or ignorant enought to believe the propaganda and accept the vaccine for a virus (which is always there, always has been, always will be)which doesnt even touch 99% of the population then maybe you deserve to go the way of the dinosaurs........buena suerte.....maybe it hasnt hit you yet.....but it will........theres the short term, mid term and long term.........Its a kill shot.......pure and simple....and those who it doesnt kill will be 5/6G transhumanist puppets.........So go for it.......but put your affairs in order...the odds for your long term survival are not very good...... everyone is different with the virus and vaccine..... i myself will not take the vaccine because i dont need it..... but...... if you think for some reason... you feel you need it.... then take it.... but dont force your ideas on others.....its already proven..masks dont do crap.....the covid vaccine is like a flu shot....you can still get covid........ and thats about it.....some people have had health issues after the vaccine..... so its your choice....
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Post by charlie640 on Nov 24, 2021 14:23:36 GMT -5
This Winter will be EPIC... I believe that the vast majority of the stricken will be the VAXXED, and they won't necessarily die COVID, they will die from other things caused by the micro-clotting from the Spike Protein from the VAX or , since the VAX can compromise the bodies general immune response the regular Flu can be fatal. Look at the UK... huge # of cases of this now. Watchhhhhhhhh
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Post by wildstubby on Dec 12, 2021 8:26:20 GMT -5
Just to revisit this thread, my wife and my daughter both tested positive for Covid-19 earlier this week. The wife had the Pfizer shot(s)and the daughter didn't have any vaccinations. Thankfully their symptoms were mild and typical of a 'standard' flu virus. The tip-off was both lost their sense of taste. The daughter's returned but the wife's didn't, (she still doesn't have it),even after she is clear of congestion and has been asymptomatic for most of the week. I don't know if it was the alpha, delta, omicron or Boston Cream pie variant since that is not included in the test. If I had it, the worse I had was a headache for 1 day. I had the Pfizer series, (only 2 no booster!). The daughter returns to school tomorrow 12/13, I get tested for my job tomorrow, if it is negative I return to work on Wednesday. I wish these tests would be able to detect if you have indeed been exposed to it and whether you have anti-bodies and what version it was.
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Post by mudd on Dec 12, 2021 9:40:22 GMT -5
Just to revisit this thread, my wife and my daughter both tested positive for Covid-19 earlier this week. The wife had the Pfizer shot(s)and the daughter didn't have any vaccinations. Thankfully their symptoms were mild and typical of a 'standard' flu virus. The tip-off was both lost their sense of taste. The daughter's returned but the wife's didn't, (she still doesn't have it),even after she is clear of congestion and has been asymptomatic for most of the week. I don't know if it was the alpha, delta, omicron or Boston Cream pie variant since that is not included in the test. If I had it, the worse I had was a headache for 1 day. I had the Pfizer series, (only 2 no booster!). The daughter returns to school tomorrow 12/13, I get tested for my job tomorrow, if it is negative I return to work on Wednesday. I wish these tests would be able to detect if you have indeed been exposed to it and whether you have anti-bodies and what version it was. i had covid back some time ago...... tested positive for the antibodies about 2 months ago..... been around many people who gotten covid... some vaccinated.. some not..... felt fine... no issues. havent been sick....all in all.... i think its better if you get covid ( if your body can deal with it) and be done with it
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Post by prospector9 on Dec 12, 2021 15:23:10 GMT -5
This site apperars to have become a haven for a cabal of far right winger Americans living in Colombia espousing everything that was ever tweeted by Donald Trump including the notion that the Covid 19 virus is a hoax of some sort and vaccinations against it should be rejected. So it's not surprising that most expats who used to post here have now moved over to the Colombia Expat site where political opinions are balanced. so trump had something to do with this??? (((( my friends brother and wife who were vaccinated 4 months ago.... just got covid..... so dont think the vaccine is full-proof lol )))
guess you need to go over to colombia expat
You mean the Colombia expat forum where anything counter narrative gets automatically deleted and the poster gets banned? That so called open minded balanced expat forum?
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Post by prospector9 on Dec 12, 2021 15:37:47 GMT -5
Just to revisit this thread, my wife and my daughter both tested positive for Covid-19 earlier this week. The wife had the Pfizer shot(s)and the daughter didn't have any vaccinations. Thankfully their symptoms were mild and typical of a 'standard' flu virus. The tip-off was both lost their sense of taste. The daughter's returned but the wife's didn't, (she still doesn't have it),even after she is clear of congestion and has been asymptomatic for most of the week. I don't know if it was the alpha, delta, omicron or Boston Cream pie variant since that is not included in the test. If I had it, the worse I had was a headache for 1 day. I had the Pfizer series, (only 2 no booster!). The daughter returns to school tomorrow 12/13, I get tested for my job tomorrow, if it is negative I return to work on Wednesday. I wish these tests would be able to detect if you have indeed been exposed to it and whether you have anti-bodies and what version it was. i had covid back some time ago...... tested positive for the antibodies about 2 months ago..... been around many people who gotten covid... some vaccinated.. some not..... felt fine... no issues. havent been sick....all in all.... i think its better if you get covid ( if your body can deal with it) and be done with it Absolutely agree with you. I will take the phantom virus any day over the experimental gene therapy injection. And if the govt was really concerned about your wellbeing, and feeling generous enough to give away something valuable, then why arent they giving out anti body tests far and wide? Ask yourself that one? Could it be because most everybody is already immune because of having had corona based flu (which is most of it) at one point or another and weve already reached herd immunity, (or maybe always were there) and thereby eliminate the need for an unproven EUA experimental purported vaccine?
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Post by mudd on Dec 12, 2021 15:46:32 GMT -5
i had covid back some time ago...... tested positive for the antibodies about 2 months ago..... been around many people who gotten covid... some vaccinated.. some not..... felt fine... no issues. havent been sick....all in all.... i think its better if you get covid ( if your body can deal with it) and be done with it Absolutely agree with you. I will take the phantom virus any day over the experimental gene therapy injection. And if the govt was really concerned about your wellbeing, and feeling generous enough to give away something valuable, then why arent they giving out anti body tests far and wide? Ask yourself that one? Could it be because most everybody is already immune because of having had corona based flu (which is most of it) at one point or another and weve already reached herd immunity, (or maybe always were there) and thereby eliminate the need for an unproven EUA experimental purported vaccine? my favorite part of the whole mess it.. first they said " well you will just need 2 shots... one with johnson " now they are saying 3 and maybe 4...... next will be... " you need a shot every 6 months" sounds just like them pushing the flu shots every year..... why ? $$$$$
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Post by wildstubby on Dec 12, 2021 20:00:39 GMT -5
It may have been because I have had so much Avermectin in my body that I have an 'un-natural' immunity to Covid-19. For those who don't know, I worked for almost 20 years first working where Avermectin was fermented and then where it was processed and dried into a powder and shipped to be used in Heartguard and Ivomec for agricultural uses.
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Post by prospector9 on Dec 12, 2021 22:49:23 GMT -5
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