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Post by scumbuster on Mar 16, 2021 19:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by charlie640 on Mar 19, 2021 11:56:58 GMT -5
JNJ 1 year from now .
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Post by wildstubby on Mar 19, 2021 19:27:45 GMT -5
Love your icon charlie640!
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 19, 2021 21:16:35 GMT -5
Well to be honset, not much choice as it will soon become a requirement if you want to travel
But pick wisely. Avoid the Chinese, Russian and Indian ones..if you can
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Post by gallito on Mar 20, 2021 14:36:04 GMT -5
India makes 4 vaccines including JJ;Canada may have its own vaccine. Luck of the draw which one you'll get in Canada.
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Post by scumbuster on Mar 20, 2021 18:46:35 GMT -5
Well to be honset, not much choice as it will soon become a requirement if you want to travel But pick wisely. Avoid the Chinese, Russian and Indian ones..if you can I plan to try to avoid it. So far here, its limited to the old and medical workers. I hope they distribute it to local Drs. when they have more available and I can just slip someone a few bucks to say I got mine.
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Post by james on Mar 20, 2021 19:27:07 GMT -5
I am scheduled to get mine next Wednesday. Looking forward to getting it. Present company excepted ... but I personally think that the antivaxxers are looney. The latest count shows 421 million vaccinated world wide. If the vaccine is soooo bad why aren't hundreds of thousands sick, dying, comatose, whatever.
- JAMES
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Post by scumbuster on Mar 20, 2021 22:00:25 GMT -5
The vaccine may work just fine but the risk for the normal person under the age of 70 is minimal. Especially if they dont have any other comorbidities. It seems the biggest unknown that some speculate about is, in the future if you are exposed to another corona virus or a mutated variant that may cause a cytokine storm. That is an exaggerated and dangerous immune response. That will not be tested until some point in the future a variant or another virus emerge. Its also my understanding this vaccine isn't going to leave you immune indefinitely. In general I am pro vaccine, but the childhood vaccines given have been studied over generation not a few months. I also have a high mistrust of the government in general which doesn't help.
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Post by james on Mar 21, 2021 0:45:15 GMT -5
The vaccine may work just fine but the risk for the normal person under the age of 70 is minimal. Especially if they dont have any other comorbidities. It seems the biggest unknown that some speculate about is, in the future if you are exposed to another corona virus or a mutated variant that may cause a cytokine storm. That is an exaggerated and dangerous immune response. That will not be tested until some point in the future a variant or another virus emerge. Its also my understanding this vaccine isn't going to leave you immune indefinitely. In general I am pro vaccine, but the childhood vaccines given have been studied over generation not a few months. I also have a high mistrust of the government in general which doesn't help. This maybe true. But if you are over 70 (like me) the vaccine offers protection I might otherwise not have. Rather than forgo the vaccine and expose myself to contracting the virus, I'll go with the shot. If, in the future (say ... 10 or 20 years from now) if I am still alive I don't think I'll be too concerned. At the present time, my main concern is to prevent a viral infection from the Covid. If this causes a cytokine response several years down the line, I will deal with that then. - JAMES
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Post by scumbuster on Mar 21, 2021 6:30:44 GMT -5
I will be 65 in 5 months and maybe in 5 more years after evaluating the data I will opt for the vaccine. I just don't want to be forced to take one now just to maintain a somewhat normal life. If the vaccine is all its cracked up to be, anyone worried should take it and if your not worried you should be allowed to reject it. After all if its widely available the only person your putting at risk is yourself if you don't take it. Because those worried can get and will take the vaccination.
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 22, 2021 10:35:22 GMT -5
Well to be honset, not much choice as it will soon become a requirement if you want to travel But pick wisely. Avoid the Chinese, Russian and Indian ones..if you can I plan to try to avoid it. So far here, its limited to the old and medical workers. I hope they distribute it to local Drs. when they have more available and I can just slip someone a few bucks to say I got mine. You cant run away..Klaus Scwab will get you evetually Ever plan togo to Europe in the next few years??
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 22, 2021 10:47:15 GMT -5
India makes 4 vaccines including JJ;Canada may have its own vaccine. Luck of the draw which one you'll get in Canada. I dont know if I can get it in Canada without using a lawyer.They kicked me off of AHC years ago (illegaly at the time) even though I still pay taxes in Canada and Alberta. And these days , even if you use a lawyer and the law is on your side doesnt do any good, they just trample on Candians rights, espescially ones of my demographic (the ones they are supposedly trying to protect LOL-how ironic). My friend in Calgary who is a year younger than me was offered Astra Zenica. he declined and and he is getting Phizer next week. By the time I go to Canada in July, there should be more choice, as most people will have been vaccinated. Also a chance I could get it in Colombia before then, or even buy it in the US on my way in.
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 22, 2021 11:02:24 GMT -5
Well to be honset, not much choice as it will soon become a requirement if you want to travel But pick wisely. Avoid the Chinese, Russian and Indian ones..if you can I plan to try to avoid it. So far here, its limited to the old and medical workers. I hope they distribute it to local Drs. when they have more available and I can just slip someone a few bucks to say I got mine. Have you tried to bribe medical people in Ecuador or just talk about it all the time like it is no"big Deal"? Its not that easy in Colombia.Medical labs dont want their reputation tarnished.And if it is a document with your name on,used internationally, you could easily find your name on the "No flylist" in a flash..and probably other consequences Its not like br¡bing a local cop, migraciones , the phone company or government people for information or services through a third party. This is a document from a recognized government lab, with your name on it. I breifly thought about it when I had to get a PCR test for the trip to Canada (which I never took) within 3 days when I initially could not find a lab who coud do it in that time, and my " usual" source for these things said "no way" and "Dont try it you can get in big trouble"
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 22, 2021 17:16:43 GMT -5
I plan to try to avoid it. So far here, its limited to the old and medical workers. I hope they distribute it to local Drs. when they have more available and I can just slip someone a few bucks to say I got mine. Have you tried to bribe medical people in Ecuador or just talk about it all the time like it is no"big Deal"? Its not that easy in Colombia.Medical labs dont want their reputation tarnished.And if it is a document with your name on,used internationally, you could easily find your name on the "No flylist" in a flash..and probably other consequences Its not like br¡bing a local cop, migraciones , the phone company or government people for information or services through a third party. This is a document from a recognized government lab, with your name on it. I breifly thought about it when I had to get a PCR test for the trip to Canada (which I never took) within 3 days when I initially could not find a lab who coud do it in that time, and my " usual" source for these things said "no way" and "Dont try it you can get in big trouble" By the same token, itused to be easy to bribe anyone in Kazakhstan In Kazakhstan and Russia they make you renew your work visa every 4 months or so, and they made you get an HIV test every time (as if an Expat is gonna give an STD to a Kazakh or Russsian Puta, now come on, reallly!) Anyway this Serbian guy responsibe to renew my visa told me it was time to renew, and I should get a blood test. Anyway, I got busy at work, and one day he shows up with my visa. "Hey, how did you get that? Ididnt do any blood test" "this doctor not need blood, I give vodka!" he replied
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Post by scumbuster on Mar 22, 2021 17:53:21 GMT -5
We have a neighbor that is a Dr. here. If they distribute the vaccines to doctors I feel pretty confident we can get the paperwork. But now you have to go to a clinic to get the vaccine. That may be more of a challenge. I hope as there is more supply they will distribute to general doctors and I can get mine from our neighbor. In a clinic I would try to say I have a phobia about someone injecting me and I need to do it myself.
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Post by ozgringo on Mar 23, 2021 3:25:53 GMT -5
My mum's husband got his first shot yesterday. Astrazeneca. He's 84. Has emphysema, cancer and heart issues. He's fine.
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Post by wildstubby on Mar 23, 2021 18:28:01 GMT -5
ozgringo said: Well I hope for his sake and your mom's it remains that way!
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Post by scumbuster on Mar 23, 2021 22:01:51 GMT -5
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Post by ozgringo on Mar 24, 2021 2:24:19 GMT -5
ozgringo said:Well I hope for his sake and your mom's it remains that way! He didn't have any other option really. If he got the virus he wouldn't survive. I honestly thought he could of been in a bit of trouble given his current health. Yet, he experienced absolutely no side affects. My Mum is 71 and didn't experience any side affects either.
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Post by james on Mar 24, 2021 13:45:34 GMT -5
I got my 1st Covid shot this morning. Pfizer vaccine. It's been 6 hours and no reactions at all. Luz gets her shot tomorrow, and my 2nd will be next week. I hope it works.
- JAMES
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 24, 2021 17:26:15 GMT -5
We have a neighbor that is a Dr. here. If they distribute the vaccines to doctors I feel pretty confident we can get the paperwork. But now you have to go to a clinic to get the vaccine. That may be more of a challenge. I hope as there is more supply they will distribute to general doctors and I can get mine from our neighbor. In a clinic I would try to say I have a phobia about someone injecting me and I need to do it myself. Othrr thing. I thought from statistics and my own personal ancedotal experience only old decrepit or.sick people or fat people die from COVID My friend says a guy here in the biking club in Manizales an athlete in great shape and 44 got it and died. Rare when you are younger without cormorbidities but still a crap shoot. And if you survive who knows what it could do to your lungs and rest of your system.once again rare but a definite risk Although a small risk yes but still.way more risky than taking the vaccine
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Post by james on Mar 29, 2021 22:19:31 GMT -5
Othrr thing. I thought from statistics and my own personal ancedotal experience only old decrepit or.sick people or fat people die from COVID
My friend says a guy here in the biking club in Manizales an athlete in great shape and 44 got it and died. Rare when you are younger without cormorbidities but still a crap shoot. And if you survive who knows what it could do to your lungs and rest of your system.once again rare but a definite risk Although a small risk yes but still.way more risky than taking the vaccine I always thought that too. But we have had two people here die from the COVID. One was male 26. Evidentally he waited too long to go to the hospital and when he finally did, there was nothing they could do to save him. The other was a 40 something woman. From what I've heard she got sick and died almost immediately. - JAMES
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Post by james on Mar 31, 2021 9:02:40 GMT -5
There is talk about the pandemic bringing about the great reset. governments need money to be tracked and physical money is a big problem, because they don't know who has what. Money being 100% digital is part of the plan. Disguised as the green new deal, people will demand it without knowing what it really is. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
- JAMES
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Post by scumbuster on Mar 31, 2021 13:16:24 GMT -5
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Post by scumbuster on Apr 19, 2021 6:23:18 GMT -5
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Post by wildstubby on Apr 19, 2021 21:32:06 GMT -5
I am scheduled to get a Pfizer on Thursday. This will be shot #1.
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Post by Mondongo on Apr 20, 2021 8:01:38 GMT -5
Got my 1st Phizer,3 weeks ago, no problems at all..., in a week for the 2nd.... I ain't skeered.
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Post by charlie640 on Apr 24, 2021 9:14:28 GMT -5
RE: mRNA based vaccines ( Moderna / Pfizer) You guys are all focusing on the short term effects. No one has a clue about LONG TERM side effects ! Why be a part of an experiment when the JNJ is a safer option, presumably made the old fashion way, which some say ALSO may have long term side effects, but at least these are known. Long terms side effects of mRNA Vacs are still a big unknown, BUT I have heard some very concerning news about mRNA vacs causing issues with womens reproductive systems ! Maybe Bill Gates will get his way with his DePOPULATION agenda after all ! If I was forced to do an mRNA vac... I would not do Moderna.. only because this is the 1 and ONLY product they have ever mass produced!! Gov't issued digital $$ is the Gov't wet dream ! Total control and tracking. Not only that, but DIGITAL YUAN has EXPIRATION DATE
Who needs negative interest rates when gov't can make your $$ worthless after a certain date ? !
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Post by wildstubby on Apr 24, 2021 13:16:08 GMT -5
I got the Pfizer on Thursday. I return for my 2nd on May 15th. A little sore at the injection site but other than that no problems.
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Post by Mondongo on Apr 30, 2021 10:17:21 GMT -5
2nd Phizer dose on 4/27...... Same for my Colombiana..... no side effects whatsoever...
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