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Post by robbierobnj on Jun 18, 2020 18:20:34 GMT -5
Is it still a disease for fat old people? I'd say South america will have more cases than the USA pretty soon. 3100 plus cases added today and another 85 deaths but yea its because the hospitals are paid extra. Those people really died from something else. Sure they did
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Post by caliorbust on Jun 18, 2020 21:47:42 GMT -5
This is the official corona situation here as of today. The increased number of infections are to be taken with a grain of salt as there are likely countless people infected who have never been tested yet or avoid being tested. Numbers of corona casualties are also debatable because hospitals are getting paid substantially more from the EPS if a patient or a casualty was infected by the virus.
Ya son 57046 casos positivos, 21326 casos recuperados y 1864 fallecidos. Hoy (Miércoles 17 de Junio) se suman 2,115 nuevos casos de personas que dieron positivo a la prueba del coronavirus. Comparado con el reporte del día anterior, tuvo un incremento de 247 casos (1,868 ayer), por lo que el total de casos positivos del COVID-19 en Colombia llega a 57,046.
El último caso se reporta en la ciudad de Barranquilla (Barranquilla D.E.), la paciente aún se le está estudiando para conocer como adquirió el coronavirus, si se infectó en otro país o lo adquirió de forma local. Es una señorita de 28 años, que por presentar un cuadro infeccioso estable, se encuentra en su casa bajo monitoreo médico. Empezó a manifestar síntomas de la enfermedad desde el 7 de Junio.
En el caso de las 2,115 nuevas personas que ingresan hoy al histórico de casos con covid-19, su condición es esta: se mantienen 187 hospitalizados, 39 luchan por su vida en la unidad de cuidados intensivos (UCI), 10 personas ingresan al reporte de hoy como fallecidos y finalmente 1,879 (88.84%) personas se reportan en casa, estables pero bajo monitoreo médico.
De los nuevos contagiados, 54 se infectaron a través de otras personas dentro del país y 2,061 se encuentran en estudio para determinar como ocurrió el contagio.
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Post by caliorbust on Jun 18, 2020 22:08:25 GMT -5
According to latest research people with blood group A and B are a lot more prone to be infected, even die from the virus, while the O group folks have 50% less of a possibility to get infected or go through a drawn out or risky recovery. Congrats to the O members on here. (I should be so lucky...) This research is absolutely proven and reliable. Your blood group should be listed on your cedula in case you forgot.
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2020 6:56:09 GMT -5
This is the official corona situation here as of today. The increased number of infections are to be taken with a grain of salt as there are likely countless people infected who have never been tested yet or avoid being tested. Numbers of corona casualties are also debatable because hospitals are getting paid substantially more from the EPS if a patient or a casualty was infected by the virus. Ya son 57046 casos positivos, 21326 casos recuperados y 1864 fallecidos. Hoy (Miércoles 17 de Junio) se suman 2,115 nuevos casos de personas que dieron positivo a la prueba del coronavirus. Comparado con el reporte del día anterior, tuvo un incremento de 247 casos (1,868 ayer), por lo que el total de casos positivos del COVID-19 en Colombia llega a 57,046. El último caso se reporta en la ciudad de Barranquilla (Barranquilla D.E.), la paciente aún se le está estudiando para conocer como adquirió el coronavirus, si se infectó en otro país o lo adquirió de forma local. Es una señorita de 28 años, que por presentar un cuadro infeccioso estable, se encuentra en su casa bajo monitoreo médico. Empezó a manifestar síntomas de la enfermedad desde el 7 de Junio. En el caso de las 2,115 nuevas personas que ingresan hoy al histórico de casos con covid-19, su condición es esta: se mantienen 187 hospitalizados, 39 luchan por su vida en la unidad de cuidados intensivos (UCI), 10 personas ingresan al reporte de hoy como fallecidos y finalmente 1,879 (88.84%) personas se reportan en casa, estables pero bajo monitoreo médico. De los nuevos contagiados, 54 se infectaron a través de otras personas dentro del país y 2,061 se encuentran en estudio para determinar como ocurrió el contagio. Dont believe the Colombia Chismosa about the EPSs being paid. I talked to a few medical people and they say it is BS My maid even believes they are even injecting people with the Virus during the test procedure Also, testing in Colombia stillisnt that high Unfortunately, I feel Robbie is right. I hope they dont shut everything down again and I am forced to take an emergency flight outin Fall. I will probably go to Canada and Cuba. Less cases there..seem to have things under control
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 7:22:41 GMT -5
According to latest research people with blood group A and B are a lot more prone to be infected, even die from the virus, while the O group folks have 50% less of a possibility to get infected or go through a drawn out or risky recovery. Congrats to the O members on here. (I should be so lucky...) This research is absolutely proven and reliable. Your blood group should be listed on your cedula in case you forgot. NO, it is NOT absolutely proven and reliable. Please don't spread false information.. I am type O by the way.
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Post by mudd on Jun 19, 2020 8:08:30 GMT -5
virus is a joke and way over inflated.
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Post by robbierobnj on Jun 19, 2020 8:51:53 GMT -5
This is the official corona situation here as of today. The increased number of infections are to be taken with a grain of salt as there are likely countless people infected who have never been tested yet or avoid being tested. Numbers of corona casualties are also debatable because hospitals are getting paid substantially more from the EPS if a patient or a casualty was infected by the virus. Ya son 57046 casos positivos, 21326 casos recuperados y 1864 fallecidos. Hoy (Miércoles 17 de Junio) se suman 2,115 nuevos casos de personas que dieron positivo a la prueba del coronavirus. Comparado con el reporte del día anterior, tuvo un incremento de 247 casos (1,868 ayer), por lo que el total de casos positivos del COVID-19 en Colombia llega a 57,046. El último caso se reporta en la ciudad de Barranquilla (Barranquilla D.E.), la paciente aún se le está estudiando para conocer como adquirió el coronavirus, si se infectó en otro país o lo adquirió de forma local. Es una señorita de 28 años, que por presentar un cuadro infeccioso estable, se encuentra en su casa bajo monitoreo médico. Empezó a manifestar síntomas de la enfermedad desde el 7 de Junio. En el caso de las 2,115 nuevas personas que ingresan hoy al histórico de casos con covid-19, su condición es esta: se mantienen 187 hospitalizados, 39 luchan por su vida en la unidad de cuidados intensivos (UCI), 10 personas ingresan al reporte de hoy como fallecidos y finalmente 1,879 (88.84%) personas se reportan en casa, estables pero bajo monitoreo médico. De los nuevos contagiados, 54 se infectaron a través de otras personas dentro del país y 2,061 se encuentran en estudio para determinar como ocurrió el contagio. Dont believe the Colombia Chismosa about the EPSs being paid. I talked to a few medical people and they say it is BS My maid even believes they are even injecting people with the Virus during the test procedure Also, testing in Colombia stillisnt that high Unfortunately, I feel Robbie is right. I hope they dont shut everything down again and I am forced to take an emergency flight outin Fall. I will probably go to Canada and Cuba. Less cases there..seem to have things under control The official numbers are over 60k yesterday largest 1 day rise and death toll by far your numbers are a day behind
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Post by tubes on Jun 19, 2020 10:28:07 GMT -5
virus is a joke and way over inflated. Mudd: It may just be a joke to you but I have friends and family in hospital and I can assure you that it is no joking matter!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 10:53:01 GMT -5
Wife just showed me a picture of the crowd in an Exito in Medellin shopping because today everyone is allowed out to shop for the no VAT day.. Wall to wall people on top of themselves buying TVs.. Looked like the old days in the US for Black Friday.. We were going to shop for a few things today, but I'll wait and gladly pay a little extra for the VAT another day..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 10:56:51 GMT -5
virus is a joke and way over inflated. Mudd I think you are right in that it is overstated and inflated and the response of the lockdowns could have been done much better all around the world, but if you happen to be one who gets a severe case it's a different story.. Caliorbust told me I'm all set with my type O blood..
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Post by caliorbust on Jun 19, 2020 11:03:36 GMT -5
According to latest research people with blood group A and B are a lot more prone to be infected, even die from the virus, while the O group folks have 50% less of a possibility to get infected or go through a drawn out or risky recovery. Congrats to the O members on here. (I should be so lucky...) This research is absolutely proven and reliable. Your blood group should be listed on your cedula in case you forgot. NO, it is NOT absolutely proven and reliable. Please don't spread false information.. I am type O by the way. Who are you accusing me of spreading false information? Read extensive research from different countries like I did before you comment. Been watching your never ending snide remarks too many times, always looking for a fight. Is that your idea of participating in a forum?
You come across like a very unhappy person, like life has been passing you by.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 11:17:22 GMT -5
NO, it is NOT absolutely proven and reliable. Please don't spread false information.. I am type O by the way. Who are you accusing me of spreading false information? Read extensive research from different countries like I did before you comment. Been watching your never ending snide remarks too many times, always looking for a fight. Is that your idea of participating in a forum?
You come across like a very unhappy person, like life has been passing you by.
I'm very happy, but to say it is absolutely proven and reliable is absolutely full of $hit.. I have read numerous articles and nothing is yet proven about the blood types, so yes you are spreading false information. Every article and study i have read says type O may provide some protection the studies suggest it might provide protection. It is one thing to express an opinion on a forum, it is another to outright declare some absolutely true that could impact someone's health.. As far as snide remarks I reserve them mostly for Elex (who I actually like) and Jersey boy who deserves it.. You should not be on a forum if your skin is so thin, given your heightened paranoia I think most here have given you a pass.. It is not a snide remark to ask you not to spread false information..
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2020 11:35:33 GMT -5
According to latest research people with blood group A and B are a lot more prone to be infected, even die from the virus, while the O group folks have 50% less of a possibility to get infected or go through a drawn out or risky recovery. Congrats to the O members on here. (I should be so lucky...) This research is absolutely proven and reliable. Your blood group should be listed on your cedula in case you forgot. NO, it is NOT absolutely proven and reliable. Please don't spread false information.. I am type O by the way. Yeah he is good as that. Must have heard it from one of his families"Curanderos".(quack local "healers" the Colombians in lower estratos use). The most accepted study came out of China..can you believe it? I have A Positive. Some studies propose it is the same as "0" others say even wores than "A".. I am not worried. My lungs are in great shape, and so is my immune system. Havent had the flu in my life nor a cold in 3 years.Still plan to take precautions-stay away from crowds- wash hands-wear mask- and an N95 when flying and maybe goggles. But I dont plan to cower under my bed. I plan to take advantage of things as much as possible as they open up. What is the point of living if you just exist like some type of fungus or mushroom? My fear isnt the virus- it is the government reaction to it I am scared of. Maybe they will lock down again...or at least delay opening up more for a few monhs. I sure hope not. I have seen Colombias death rate go from 1 fifteenth of Canadas to one 5th now. Now it is 38 per milllion. I figure it will go to at least the same level as Brazil and Canadas -200 to 250 per million, before peaking and subsiding. Looking at the trends, Colombia is on the worst course in Latin America, and maybe in the world. Basically I see the 2 months lockdown and the governments handling of the crisis as nothing more than a Knee-jerk reaction without a plan ( i.e testing, contact tracing and isolation of new infections) and a total failure. Destroy the economy and massive personal sacrifice for nothing.They where supposed to use this time to get their act together, but obviously they didnt. Well what do you expect from a third world country?
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Post by mudd on Jun 19, 2020 11:39:04 GMT -5
virus is a joke and way over inflated. Mudd: It may just be a joke to you but I have friends and family in hospital and I can assure you that it is no joking matter! so is the flu, cancer, haert disease, which all have a higher death rate, dont see countries shutting down for these . people worried they will catch it, stay home, wear a mask or do whatever, but im not worried about it and so are millions who think its a joke and over inflated.
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Post by jabberwocky on Jun 19, 2020 11:39:25 GMT -5
Cases are spiking in Florida , and its not just more testing , Orlando is going to mandatory masks for anyone leaving their house tomorrow - should have probably already been doing that - things got too relaxed too quick here - and now they are scrambling to contain it - I understand the need to open things - we need to - but once they started they did not push the mask wearing or social distancing - things just went back to normal very quickly. I can't see Colombia welcoming back tourists from US in September unless they go into strict quarantine for 2 weeks, I had started to think I may be able to get back to Colombia in October - I tend to doubt it now.
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2020 11:41:49 GMT -5
Wife just showed me a picture of the crowd in an Exito in Medellin shopping because today everyone is allowed out to shop for the no VAT day.. Wall to wall people on top of themselves buying TVs.. Looked like the old days in the US for Black Friday.. We were going to shop for a few things today, but I'll wait and gladly pay a little extra for the VAT another day.. By the same token, France has virtually wiped out the virus, and I have seen Videos of people in the bars and restaurants in the street cafes..jam paccked with people, no social distancing.. Something is really fishy here...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 12:14:53 GMT -5
Wife just showed me a picture of the crowd in an Exito in Medellin shopping because today everyone is allowed out to shop for the no VAT day.. Wall to wall people on top of themselves buying TVs.. Looked like the old days in the US for Black Friday.. We were going to shop for a few things today, but I'll wait and gladly pay a little extra for the VAT another day.. By the same token, France has virtually wiped out the virus, and I have seen Videos of people in the bars and restaurants in the street cafes..jam paccked with people, no social distancing.. Something is really fishy here... Elex, a good friend that my wife grew up with has an apartment in Paris, she sent a video to us last week showing crowded streets of people walking and restaurants full of people, very few were wearing masks. It really has been strange times and not everything seems to make sense.. I take precautions(wear a N95 Mask, wash hands, stay away from people, etc) but I am not paranoid(especially with my super blood type O).. But can't just sit around hiding and rot.. My step son was at the beach in FL with his dogs yesterday and kept video chatting with me via WhatsApp to rub it in, have to admit I would have loved to have been there..
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Post by robbierobnj on Jun 19, 2020 12:41:07 GMT -5
Colombia will be clocking 4000 cases a day early next week. Letting people run around to save taxes and buy crap isn't going to help save what it calls an economy. Lock everyone down and save a few lives because you wont save the economy or the peso with the little activity you get today. Not to mention the loss of tourism. I hope Im wrong but it seems to be just beginning if the quarantine is lifted
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 19, 2020 12:59:12 GMT -5
By the same token, France has virtually wiped out the virus, and I have seen Videos of people in the bars and restaurants in the street cafes..jam paccked with people, no social distancing.. Something is really fishy here... Elex, a good friend that my wife grew up with has an apartment in Paris, she sent a video to us last week showing crowded streets of people walking and restaurants full of people, very few were wearing masks. It really has been strange times and not everything seems to make sense.. I take precautions(wear a N95 Mask, wash hands, stay away from people, etc) but I am not paranoid(especially with my super blood type O).. But can't just sit around hiding and rot.. My step son was at the beach in FL with his dogs yesterday and kept video chatting with me via WhatsApp to rub it in, have to admit I would have loved to have been there.. They are opening upin Canada and cases are actually going down. And less than 50% of people there wear masks.
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Post by robbierobnj on Jun 19, 2020 13:15:12 GMT -5
Whats fishy is the virus isn't wiped out anywhere except in a few minds here. Trust me the worst is on the way for many places
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Post by jabberwocky on Jun 19, 2020 14:58:45 GMT -5
Problem Florida has - large elderly population - lots of retirement communities, ALF's , nursing homes - about 70% of deaths have come from one of these in Florida - with unfortunately a lot more to come - once the virus gets inside - it takes a lot of old folks out - as more and more get the virus - many have no symptoms but they take it with them to at risk communities. I know 3 people who have gotten covid - 2 recovered , 1 died - he was 69 in good shape but a blood clot eventually got him - after being in hospital for 3 weeks.
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Post by robbierobnj on Jun 19, 2020 18:08:30 GMT -5
today Colombia added 3000 plus cases and another almost 100 deaths. The numbers are rising at a rapid rate and at this pace there will be well over 250k cases and probably over 10000 deaths and in Colombia by September. I would be shocked if South America doesn't completely fall apart this summer.
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Post by robbierobnj on Jun 21, 2020 18:13:14 GMT -5
3000 plus cases and a record 111 deaths I just don't see how Colombia can open the economy as cases rise at a record pace. If they open 100 percent July first It will be horrible come September
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 22, 2020 10:43:30 GMT -5
Problem in Colombia they just took the "Monkey see-monkey do approch"..shut everything down for 2 months, no plan. And stupid enunforeceable laws while letting things run rampant with no enforcement in the comunas and barrios populares..
Poor testing methods, no contact tracing or isolation of the infected...corrupt medical facilitues and EPS sytem..what could possibly go right?
And because there will be multi-generational families living under the same roof...and even more so because evryone is moving back home with the parents because yhey cant pay therent -the old people will be foched.
Imagine 12 people under one roof, 2 of them working in construcion without social distancing or tapa bocas (Like I saw today) as you would expect (because otherwise would be impractical), one of them gets COVID, brings it home, everybody gets it..kills the abuela
From the other pont of view, I doubt there will be further strict lockdowns or they will delay reopening. The people are just about ready to revolt.
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Post by robbierobnj on Jun 22, 2020 11:14:44 GMT -5
I just see the numbers getting worse if they actually tested at the U.S. rate it would be worse than the USA. South America is in big trouble and no sign of a vaccine. I mean South America has tested 1/6 of the people the United States has tested and has almost as many cases. It would be irresponsible to open Colombia now but when has colombia ever done the right thing? I don’t see the point in trying to save the economy when they will have their hand out to borrow from the rest of the world might as well try to save a few people
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Post by gallito on Jun 22, 2020 11:49:52 GMT -5
Deje de mamar gallo perece una zanahoria
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Post by caliorbust on Jun 23, 2020 7:01:40 GMT -5
Last Saturday night, June 20th about 500 people were celebrating Fathers Day in a poor barrio Vallegrande of Aguablanca in Cali. Police were greatly outnumbered and ESMAD, the riot police was called in, they finally were able to disperse the last of the rumberos by 5AM Sunday morning.
If that didn't rise the number of infections, don't know what would.
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Post by jabberwocky on Jun 23, 2020 11:39:15 GMT -5
Here in Florida the numbers continue to shoot up and even the Governor admits it's not all about more testing - the rate of infection has gone from about 5% of those being tested to 10% - mostly young people with no symptoms - the problem is they spread to higher risk groups because they are taking 0 precautions - hospitals ICU's are starting to fill up in South Florida - Disney is supposed to open next month but workers there are requesting Disney postpone - the opening up was not the main cause it was the opening with so any people just disregarding any directive/suggestions - masks - social distancing -
Duque has said the virus will be in the country through the end of the year ( at least) and expect a Halloween and Navidad with restrictions - I assume that means no tourists.
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Post by elexpatriado on Jun 23, 2020 13:12:57 GMT -5
Here in Florida the numbers continue to shoot up and even the Governor admits it's not all about more testing - the rate of infection has gone from about 5% of those being tested to 10% - mostly young people with no symptoms - the problem is they spread to higher risk groups because they are taking 0 precautions - hospitals ICU's are starting to fill up in South Florida - Disney is supposed to open next month but workers there are requesting Disney postpone - the opening up was not the main cause it was the opening with so any people just disregarding any directive/suggestions - masks - social distancing - Duque has said the virus will be in the country through the end of the year ( at least) and expect a Halloween and Navidad with restrictions - I assume that means no tourists. Duque doesnt know squat Rather than relyingon politics or even medical people (because they will lie or err as well), i just look at the statistics, and the mathematiacal trends. Sure there will be some over and under-exageration there, more in autocratic developing countries than in developing countries. But overall trends are usually accurate way of gauging things inthe long run. Right now , the trends for Colombia dont look good. Could be for a myriad of reasons. Not following social distancing and PPE rules in the barrios populares, improper and dispropriate enforcement of the rules. (stopping people from jogging out in the woods where no body exists, but allowing an Orgy of 500 people to occur in the Comunas of the major cities, or allowing jam packed crowds to happen during a day without IVA), inadequate and uncoordinated testing, no contact tracing and isolation, isolating areas where there are very few cases, but letting "clusters" in Bogota, Cali and Cartagena to run amok, inadequate use of clinics , ICUs, etc. and non proactive medical staff (i.e too laxzy or scared to go into the "hot spot" bar¡os to conduct testing, tracing,isolation etc., corrupt medical system stealing funds.yadda yadda yadda But the point is...the cases and deaths are increasing rapidly, possibly exponentially- the next few days and weeks will tell if the cases and deaths per day have reached a plateau ..a permanent plateau from which they decline, or just a temporary one from which they will continue thier upward climb.
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Post by caliconnection on Jun 23, 2020 20:07:22 GMT -5
Here in Florida the numbers continue to shoot up and even the Governor admits it's not all about more testing - the rate of infection has gone from about 5% of those being tested to 10% - mostly young people with no symptoms - the problem is they spread to higher risk groups because they are taking 0 precautions - hospitals ICU's are starting to fill up in South Florida - Disney is supposed to open next month but workers there are requesting Disney postpone - the opening up was not the main cause it was the opening with so any people just disregarding any directive/suggestions - masks - social distancing - Duque has said the virus will be in the country through the end of the year ( at least) and expect a Halloween and Navidad with restrictions - I assume that means no tourists. Duque doesnt know squat Rather than relyingon politics or even medical people (because they will lie or err as well), i just look at the statistics, and the mathematiacal trends. Sure there will be some over and under-exageration there, more in autocratic developing countries than in developing countries. But overall trends are usually accurate way of gauging things inthe long run. Right now , the trends for Colombia dont look good. Could be for a myriad of reasons. Not following social distancing and PPE rules in the barrios populares, improper and dispropriate enforcement of the rules. (stopping people from jogging out in the woods where no body exists, but allowing an Orgy of 500 people to occur in the Comunas of the major cities, or allowing jam packed crowds to happen during a day without IVA), inadequate and uncoordinated testing, no contact tracing and isolation, isolating areas where there are very few cases, but letting "clusters" in Bogota, Cali and Cartagena to run amok, inadequate use of clinics , ICUs, etc. and non proactive medical staff (i.e too laxzy or scared to go into the "hot spot" bar¡os to conduct testing, tracing,isolation etc., corrupt medical system stealing funds.yadda yadda yadda But the point is...the cases and deaths are increasing rapidly, possibly exponentially- the next few days and weeks will tell if the cases and deaths per day have reached a plateau ..a permanent plateau from which they decline, or just a temporary one from which they will continue thier upward climb. Every country has followed the same pattern. Big spike, looking like the world is going to end (or at least their country is). Then a leveling, and then a decline. Countries where the cases have started to rise again (like the US) are still see a declining death rate. This means the virus is getting weaker.
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