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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 30, 2020 13:11:42 GMT -5
One more thing, I am well aware how Canadians feel about Germans, I had first hand experience when I lived 7 years in Canada during the sixties, in Calgary, Red Deer and the last 4 years in Vancouver. Even got arrested twice, had to go to Court to explain to the Judge why I bought a six-pack of beer for an Indian in a liquor store. The Indian handed me the money and I saw no reason to turn him down because those stores kept a register on clients and cut them off when they reached their limit. I told the Judge in my best English of the time; "Your Honor, I didn't know the law prohibits selling beer to Indians". Practiced that one for hours. Lucky for me he let me go, because the penalty was substantial. The second time I spent a day in jail because I ignored a traffic ticket for $10 for driving with one headlight. But man, in the beer parlors they were still fighting WW2, just as well I didn't understand the half of it. Elex, I noticed you keep thinking about my 'Nazi past' when you read my posts. The truth is I don't like the Nazis anymore than you do, I'm glad they hung some of the worst bastards and feel bad that so many were able to escape to South America and lived out their life, like that damn Mengele. I lost my dad and 2 uncles on the Russian front when I was 3, my grandfather in WW1 at age 24, know them only from pictures. Spent many nights in bomb shelters. Grew up in post war Germany in poverty, in the Russian occupied part mind you, my mom struggling to keep as two alive. I was 6 months when the war started and 6 years old when it ended. Why people would point the finger at me for Nazi atrocities is hard to understand. Have one good memory though when my uncle Walter, dad's only brother came home from the Africa Corps at war's end without a scratch and actually lived to be 94. Ja Ja Ja..things have changed just slightly from the 60s you know... Even serial killers spend hardly any time in Jail now a days. I never mentioned your"Nazi" past..only hinted at this possibility once on the other site when you started spouting genetic type racial theories. (okay lets just say "generalizations").Lets not go there OK?. Some things should be left in the mind and not spoken. Felix "Lace" or "Rex" on BPS is ultra right, and sometimes gets into that subject. I am conservative, and believe in free speach, but find that topic disgusting-and it would be offensive to some people, espescially those who would rightly take it personally. Everybody has a line which cannot be crossed. I know you arent and werent a Nazi-In truth, you probably think more like my dad and Uncle (God rest their Souls) who were only a few years oder than you and lived in Holland during he ocupation.Same cinservative mentality of the older generation Europeans.
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 30, 2020 13:15:56 GMT -5
They dont have a real lock down. But Ecuador does, and it will be continueing for another 19 days soon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 18:26:07 GMT -5
How many of you guys have N95 masks?, they are readily available in Colombia..
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Post by wildstubby on Mar 30, 2020 18:37:00 GMT -5
I still use an original Nordic Trak for exercise!
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Post by caliorbust on Mar 30, 2020 19:05:16 GMT -5
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Post by ozgringo on Mar 30, 2020 20:09:50 GMT -5
How many of you guys have N95 masks?, they are readily available in Colombia.. We have a few. Haven't used one yet. They are gold here in Australia. If you can get one they are around $25 a mask. We have a whole box of disposal plastic gloves. Just got back from the supermarket. Wore them for the first time. Quite a few others had gloves on too. Been a little crazy here. Freezers and fridges have sold out, generators. (Actually a limit now whereby you can only buy one generator at a time) not that you can find one now. People have been going to specialist cleaning companies buying aspestos removal masks. The best are Powered Air Purifying Respirator (PAPR) systems which can easily cost over a $1000. We don't have an official quarantine. Very limited. Basically can only be with your family or household. $11000 fine if caught disobeying new rules. Most places are still open. In NSW. We have about 4500 cases and of those approx 29 are critical. The govt stimulus is currently around $300 billion and not even close to being over. Govt is worried about social disruption. Increase in crime, mental health, domestic violence and of course the economy.
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Post by ozgringo on Mar 30, 2020 20:48:05 GMT -5
I wish our govt took it as seriously as the Colombian govt. As it is now, they really only care about the economy and namely house prices.
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Post by gallito on Mar 31, 2020 0:08:52 GMT -5
Masks and gloves;I started seeing people wearing them in Shanghai 3rd week of January,Feb3rd I left PVG everyone was wearing them.I noticed half flight attendants wore them,SFO most of airport staff didn't wear masks.I arrived in YVR not many were wearing them,on last flight the gate lady told me to take my mask off before I boarded air transport rules,I informed her where I'd been,didn't care. Not many are wearing masks in my city,imo people are slow to comply.Most N Americans have no idea what it's like to wear a mask for any prolonged period. As a test try on your mask if you were lucky enough to find one,time how long you can wear a mask 😷 oh while you're at slip on some plastic gloves,cheap kind one size fitss all
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 31, 2020 10:03:31 GMT -5
I dont know what the guys background is, but he seems to be taking an analytical approach to the data. As far as Ecuador, I have been plotting the daily new cases in a table, and it apears (I hope) that the daily new cases ar e coming down. Hope this is not an aberation. They have been in LockDown / Quarantine for about 2 weeks, now, a week more than Colombia. I have also been plotting Colombias new cases, but there has been an aberration showing artificially low cses for 2 days due to failure of the testing machine. The new case growth will keep growing exponentially for at least another week or 2, as the Incubation period is 14 days, and we are seeing the infections of 2weeks ago in the data. Also the surge in deaths will lag the surge in new cases by 1 to 2 weeks. Looking at the Italian situation on the Worldometer site, it appears (and I hope) there is a downtrend in new cases and they are on the other side of the curve. I sure hope this is true. Possibly the same situation for Spain. Both countries have been in lockdown for more than 2 weeks. The video also makes the point that you have to let people who are not at major risk to have an outlet (i.e. outdoor exercise) at some point to avoid revolt. I hope when Colombia does they dont put anage limit like 60 or some stupid thing, because I an¡m in better shape and have a stronger immune sytem than 95% of 25 year old Colombians. I will be really Pizzed if they try that. Be looking for a fake ID on the black market
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 31, 2020 10:06:36 GMT -5
In other news, the Mayor of Bogota is proposing a city quarantine for 3 months, and is urging Duque to do the same for the country. Which begs the question. The cases will never go back to zero. Will some people be proposing that we stay quarantined for 2 years until everyone has acess to a Vaccine? No freaking way I am going to take that, and neither will the vast majority of the population.
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 31, 2020 10:12:13 GMT -5
Masks and gloves;I started seeing people wearing them in Shanghai 3rd week of January,Feb3rd I left PVG everyone was wearing them.I noticed half flight attendants wore them,SFO most of airport staff wore masks.I arrived in YVR not many wee wearing them,on last flight the gate lady told me to take my mask off before I boarded air transport rules,I informed her where I'd been,didn't care. Not many are wearing masks in my city,imo people are slow to comply.Most N Americans have no idea what it's like to wear a mask for any prolonged period. As a test try on your mask if you were lucky enougb to find one,time how long you can wear a mask 😷 oh while you're at slip on some plastic gloves,cheap kind one size fit's all Read the WHO, Mayo Clinic, Mediweb, John Hopkins and other sites. Dont go to Doctor Ho ancient Chinese secret coronvirus medical advice site. These are the guys that got us in the mess in the first place and you trust them?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 13:16:44 GMT -5
So the USA had no problem lying to the general population.. Because of the shortage of masks they tried weave the tale that masks are not effective.. I guess they assume that since 80 percent of the population is walking around high from legal pot that no one would notice..
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Post by elexpatriado on Mar 31, 2020 14:08:14 GMT -5
So the USA had no problem lying to the general population.. Because of the shortage of masks they tried weave the tale that masks are not effective.. I guess they assume that since 80 percent of the population is walking around high from legal pot that no one would notice.. So you trust doctor Ho more than the Mayo clinic as well?
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Post by caliorbust on Mar 31, 2020 20:43:25 GMT -5
Medication developed in the US for Ebola by name of Remdesivir is being tested on 1000 corona patients in 50 hospitals word-wide. Symptoms of 600 patients were moderate and 400 patients have severe symptoms. Results have been very encouraging so far.
A quinine based medication used for Malaria has also been tested but with mediocre results, so tests have been discarded.
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Post by scumbuster on Mar 31, 2020 21:06:59 GMT -5
Medication developed in the US for Ebola by name of Remdesivir is being tested on 1000 corona patients in 50 hospitals word-wide. Symptoms of 600 patients were moderate and 400 patients have severe symptoms. Results have been very encouraging so far. A quinine based medication used for Malaria has also been tested but with mediocre results, so tests have been discarded. Im sure the drug companies would rather steer treatment toward a new drug still under patent as apposed to the previous promising drug that is no longer patent protected.
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Post by ozgringo on Apr 1, 2020 5:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by caliorbust on Apr 3, 2020 21:08:32 GMT -5
www.elpais.com.co/valle/responde-a-denuncia-del-ins-sobre-falencias-en-envio-de-pruebas-de-covid-19.html'Local health authorities dealt with complaints of irregularities in the delivery of evidence of Covid-19 probes arriving in Bogotá, which was expressed by the director of the National Institute of Health, Martha Ospina. The complaint was made by the director Ospina during her virtual intervention before the Senate Committee VII session, where she noted deficiencies in the packaging of coronavirus tests in the Valley and other regions. Valle del Cauca senator, Carlos Fernando Motoa, was one of those who warned of the irregularity, communicating on Twitter: "Serious complaint from the director of INS Colombia before Commission VII on deficiencies in COVID -19 evidence packaging in Valle de Cauca and other regions. Protocols are not being followed, tests arrive without numbers of the ID (cedula) for traceability, with broken packaging ... "More responsibility!" The mayor of Cali, Jorge Iván Ospina, questioned the way in which the complaint was made, because according to president (the persisting rules) these questions must be made internally.' In my opinion, this is clear evidence how serious screw-ups in handling of the corona virus tests are supposed to be dealt with internally and to be withheld from the populace. It's bad enough the corona probes have to be sent clear across the country, results being returned a week later and meanwhile the contacts of the positives keep spreading the virus. Why can't they have at least a damn lab in every mayor city?
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Post by caliorbust on Apr 3, 2020 21:44:14 GMT -5
This Physician explains the facts to the ignoramus who hollered just a couple of weeks ago on the forums that the corona virus is no more than an other form of the flu and it's terribly unfair to be confined to quarantine and 'let the old ones die so we can have a normal life'...Esto fue el colmo, like the Colombians say. May I remind y'all of the 12 year old girl who's corona death devastated the entire Belgian hospital staff and the 16 year old girl from Paris, France and there was also a baby which recently died of the corona virus? It still leaves 20% of the thousands of victims who weren't old at all and a good percentage of them didn't have anterior health problems either.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 4, 2020 13:05:36 GMT -5
This Physician explains the facts to the ignoramus who hollered just a couple of weeks ago on the forums that the corona virus is no more than an other form of the flu and it's terribly unfair to be confined to quarantine and 'let the old ones die so we can have a normal life'...Esto fue el colmo, like the Colombians say. May I remind y'all of the 12 year old girl who's corona death devastated the entire Belgian hospital staff and the 16 year old girl from Paris, France and there was also a baby which recently died of the corona virus? It still leaves 20% of the thousands of victims who weren't old at all and a good percentage of them didn't have anterior health problems either. How many babies, 12 year olds and 16 year olds die per year due to traffic accidents? So are we going to ban cars? Funny I didnt see you so emotional and sensational when the 16 year old migrant kids were dieing crossing the border illegally into the US , or washed up on the beaches of Europe. There is no way Quarantine anywhere is going beyond 2 months, absolute maximum, for sociological and economic reasons. Even Duque has mentioned they might not extend it here beyond April 13 (which I dont agree with) because Colombia does not have adequate substantial economic reserves to support it any longer. And there wont be a vaccine for at least 2 years, if ever. So they better come up with a different solution. Look at Korea, Singapore , Japan and Sweden for examples.
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 4, 2020 13:10:26 GMT -5
The Worldometer site now has complete details , charts and graphs for Colombia, Ecuador and other countries that they didnt have previously, so you can now more easily see history and trends
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Post by scumbuster on Apr 4, 2020 14:10:44 GMT -5
The Worldometer site now has complete details , charts and graphs for Colombia, Ecuador and other countries that they didnt have previously, so you can now more easily see history and trends Can you add a link?
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Post by elexpatriado on Apr 4, 2020 14:20:41 GMT -5
The Worldometer site now has complete details , charts and graphs for Colombia, Ecuador and other countries that they didnt have previously, so you can now more easily see history and trends Can you add a link? www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
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Post by caliconnection on Apr 5, 2020 15:15:17 GMT -5
From the weekly Kelly newsletter. I think I've turned much more conservative the last couple of weeks.
"As with everything in America, reaction to the virus is divided along political lines.
Roger sent me maps showing that an area’s status as red or blue correlates closely with its adherence to social distancing guidelines. The distancing was determined by an algorithm tracking cell phone locations. The redder an area, which is to say the more Republican leaning, the more it is ignoring social distancing guidelines.
This fits other personality consistencies.
A person who is a rugged individualist, shunning in principle the idea of non-military government support, is less likely to believe the threat is as big as advertised or to care what Washington thinks is the best way forward. On the flip side, a person who advocates social programs run by government, including national health care, is predisposed to follow the type of reporting that has been running on the front page of the New York Times and follow guidelines.
As with the abortion issue, both sides claim the moral high ground. One side might call the other side disrespectful of human life, but neither side ever calls itself that. Hence, both sides are pro—either pro choice or pro life.
Regarding the virus, the liberal side says that conservatives calling for an opening of the economy want to trade lives for money. Conservatives counter that it’s actually a case of trading lives for lives, because an extended shutdown will eventually cause greater suffering than the virus. Each has a point. Between the bumpers, society’s pinball bounces.
Even the data divide cleanly in two. Liberals look at case counts. Conservatives look at fatalities.
On the national reaction front, each side offers examples supporting its view. Liberals look at lockdowns in China and testing in Korea. Conservatives point to Japan and Sweden as economies in full swing even as mitigation measures are followed."
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Post by caliorbust on Apr 6, 2020 20:29:30 GMT -5
After 76 deaths in the last 24 hours Sweden is now seriously considering a lock-down.
Colombia with 11 new death, so is Ecuador
But 1255 new deaths in the States? Couldn't believe my eyes at first.
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Post by caliorbust on Apr 6, 2020 20:57:10 GMT -5
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Post by caliorbust on Apr 6, 2020 21:01:02 GMT -5
There were 80 medical doctors and 21 nurses under the corona deaths in Italy
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Post by caliorbust on Apr 7, 2020 9:22:49 GMT -5
Something to think about:
France has 66 million people, Colombia has 50 million
France has close to a 100.000 cases, almost 9000 deaths and over 7000 in ICU stations. Last reported daily deaths were around 800, figures for yesterday aren't out yet.
Wouldn't it be prudent for Colombians to stay home for a couple or three months instead of provoking a disaster?
How many ICU stations suitable for corona virus patients does Colombia have, anybody knows? '750' and most large provinces in the South and East of the country don't have any.
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Post by caliorbust on Apr 7, 2020 9:37:37 GMT -5
The quiet worrying panorama on the availability of Intensive Care Units (ICU), which really serve to care for and isolate patients with coronavirus, denounced today the Colombian Association of Scientific Societies (ACSC). According to this association that brings together all the unions of medical professionals, the country currently has a real capacity of 5,300 ICU beds. However, only between 10 and 15% have adequate isolation to serve patients with severe COVID-19. This means that in Colombia there would only be around 750 beds to handle truly isolated Covid-19 patients, so that these patients do not infect other patients. For this reason, the association recommended that ICUs be dedicated only to covid-19 patients and that non-essential surgeries be postponed. That is, that only emergency surgeries and oncology are performed. In addition, he affirmed that it is necessary to review the expansion areas (operating rooms) and verify how many respirators the country has. The outlook is worrying. In Colombia there are around 12,000 beds between Intensive Care Units (ICU) and Intermediate Care Units. But it is the 5,300 in the ICU that normally have a respirator. However, 80% are always busy and only 20% are "free", not to mention that not all of them have the appropriate level of isolation to attend to this health emergency, said Lina Triana, spokeswoman for the ACSC. If some one arrives in a normal ICU, that patient will surely infect others, so the Association recommended that in Colombia what they have done in other countries should be done, and that ICUs be dedicated only to COVID-19 patients. Therefore, she stated that it would be important to suspend selective surgeries and they are not a priority at this time, in order to give access to these ICU spaces. "It would be for a period of one or two months, while the emergency is over, because by suspending selective surgeries, the possibility of having elements for intermediate care that expand to respiratory units where there is ventilatory support available" said Triana. She added that in view of this scenario, she puts for consideration clinics, hospitals, insurers, health union societies, human talent in health and surgical specialties, the suspension of all cases of selective surgeries in operating theaters and procedures that require sedation and anesthesia because this suspension would allow the areas for ICU patients to be adapted and would contribute to the mitigation of the health emergency in the country. "It is necessary to define the subgroups of selective surgeries that cannot be deferred, such as cancer patients, but do not occupy ICU beds in the postoperative period, with the primary objective of freeing up intensive care areas where there is ventilatory support," said Triana. To potentially generate spaces that can be transformed into expansion areas for the management of patients who require intensive care and thus be able to handle the emergency. For the Association of health professionals, the protection of health providers and the care team is also essential, so that there are no more infections. "It is imperative that there is a guarantee, by the State, so that health providers can attend to patients while minimizing risks, given that, once infected, they become agents of the virus and that would be irresponsible: take care of some and infect many, spreading the virus”. ASAC said in a statement. The intensity of bio-security measures is important for medical personnel treating patients with COVID-19, to prevent the spread of the virus through them. For this reason, it is necessary to have the protection elements in number and quality that guarantee the protection of all the contact surfaces that are with the patient. Focusing attention on units dedicated to patients with suspected or definitive diagnosis by COVID-19, is the most successful strategy to optimize and rationalize resources, in addition to the implementation of the tele-consultation model for outpatients of internal medicine and their specialties, taking The only objective is to reduce contact between patient and doctor to avoid possible spread. Without a doubt, a panorama that leads us to think about accelerating the measures of confinement of the citizenry to avoid a high peak of serious cases, for which the health system seems not prepared. www.dinero.com/pais/articulo/cuantas-unidades-de-cuidado-intensivo-y-respiradores-hay-hoy-en-el-pais/282828
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