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Post by barrumundi on Nov 30, 2018 11:50:15 GMT -5
If anyone ever runs into a situation where he run out of time to process a visa during his 6 months allowed stay in the country there is a little known solution to avoid heavy penalties for overstaying. The local Migration Office will give you a 'Salvoconducto para 30 días', so you'll have an additional month to remain in country legally in case you're waiting for an Apostille from your home country or for whatever reason. The cost is about 80 mil. But a requirement is that you initiated the visa process with an application and the 'estudio' fee being paid.
They want to see a copy.
Thanks for that info caliorbust. Good to know ........ and it could be useful for me. My last entry into Colombia was on 14th Nov. and I got a stamp which I am assuming is for 90 days. I have a flight booked for Spain on 21 Feb 2019 .......... so if I don't get my resident visa sorted before that date then I can apply for a salvoconducto to tide me over for the extra days and then pick up on the original visa application when I return to Colombia in May 2019. It's a good Plan B. Thanks again for your helpful advice.
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 30, 2018 18:56:46 GMT -5
elex, I can say with most certainty that you are cut from the same mold as my step-daughter. You would probably do well with a Mountain Dew colonic and a side order of Ritalin!
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Post by caliorbust on Nov 30, 2018 19:06:19 GMT -5
Barrumundi, I suppose you are aware, before the 90 visa-free days expire, you may request an extension of up to another 90 days from the Colombian immigration authority (Migración Colombia). This visa fee is reasonable. You will face a fine if you remain in Colombia longer than allowed, and you will not be able to leave Colombia until the fine is paid (from the US State Department). Minimum fine is one half of monthly minimum wage up to 7 monthly minimum wages depending on length of overstay. In case a visa is not in place after 180 days one can obtain a Salvoconducto for 30 more days from Migración Colombia with a copy of the paid visa application at hand, to a total of 190 days. Been there, done that (in June 2018). A cedula is of minor importance because the visa sticker in your passport serves the same purpose.
It is a requirement though to obtain it within a short time limit after the visa is issued (or pay a fine) and you need to provide a Colombian bank card which will be charged 186.000 pesos. No cash or check accepted. Migración in Bogota is at Cl. 24a #59-42, a field office like you'll find in every mayor city. Migración Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores is the main office at Avenida calle 100 #11b-27
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 20:14:19 GMT -5
elex, I can say with most certainty that you are cut from the same mold as my step-daughter. You would probably do well with a Mountain Dew colonic and a side order of Ritalin! Dont need any colonic. My last colonostomy showed everything perfecto. And I eat lots of fruit and veggies. Anda I dont need or take any drugs. I just good nutricious food, lots of exercise and a few vitamins and supplements
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 20:21:05 GMT -5
Barrumundi, I suppose you are aware, before the 90 visa-free days expire, you may request an extension of up to another 90 days from the Colombian immigration authority (Migración Colombia). This visa fee is reasonable. You will face a fine if you remain in Colombia longer than allowed, and you will not be able to leave Colombia until the fine is paid (from the US State Department). Minimum fine is one half of monthly minimum wage up to 7 monthly minimum wages depending on length of overstay. In case a visa is not in place after 180 days one can obtain a Salvoconducto for 30 more days from Migración Colombia with a copy of the paid visa application at hand, to a total of 190 days. Been there, done that (in June 2018). A cedula is of minor importance because the visa sticker in your passport serves the same purpose.
It is a requirement though to obtain it within a short time limit after the visa is issued (or pay a fine) and you need to provide a Colombian bank card which will be charged 186.000 pesos. No cash or check accepted. Migración in Bogota is at Cl. 24a #59-42, a field office like you'll find in every mayor city. Migración Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores is the main office at Avenida calle 100 #11b-27 I paid tve 186 COP with my Canadian credit card.Dont need a local bank card. Also as I said, they now requiere you to fill the form out online and print it out before they process your cédula. But the ceduls is last step, after you get the visa in your hands.
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Post by búfalo on Dec 1, 2018 10:54:08 GMT -5
Oddly enough, and sorry for the plot twist but when I lived in Leticia there was a little office that would process visas ny the govt. Not sure if it was a migraciones, but was govt. Nobidy there waiting, place all to myself. Easy peasy.
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 1, 2018 11:13:53 GMT -5
Oddly enough, and sorry for the plot twist but when I lived in Leticia there was a little office that would process visas ny the govt. Not sure if it was a migraciones, but was govt. Nobidy there waiting, place all to myself. Easy peasy. How long ago was it? Was it a year long resident VisA? What type, TP-7, marriage?That would make sense that that would be a special case, the only place in Colombia where you dont have to send your passport to Bogota, because it is so remote, and bordered by Brazil and Peru and you have people passing through for trade on the Amazon all the time. Side questions- Did you trvel to Iquitos when you were there? How bad were the bugs and snakes? Did you travel to Brazil? When were you there and how long? What did you do there? Seems like an interesting place, but I dont like heat and humidity and bugs and snakes.
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Post by búfalo on Dec 1, 2018 13:34:28 GMT -5
I got off the plane and when tje heat hit thought it was the dumbest idea ever, but I quickly got used to it. His was probably....2005 ish (?). I don't remember why I went to the office, maaaaaybe renew my temp residency. But so long ago I wouldn't take my info, bettter call to make sure.
Didn't go to Iquitos. I also didn't use bug repellant BUT bring sunblock. Tourists would trek all day amd gett eaten up, then it was even more hellish because they were burned to a crisp and couldn't scratch.
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Post by caliorbust on Dec 1, 2018 15:15:13 GMT -5
Elex, does your Canadian credit card pay in Colombian Pesos? My USA Citibank debit card doesn't, just USD
That means Migración accepts credit cards but no debit cards.
Visa applications have to be paid at an assigned local bank though.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 1, 2018 16:01:37 GMT -5
It is interesting to note that my previous "Resident" visa was an 'R' type but now the Partner Visa is actually an 'M' type (migrant) visa.
From the web page I posted in the OP:
The new visa categories are: Visitor Visa, Migrant Visa and Resident Visa.
Resident Visa (type R): for those aspiring to establish themselves or begin permanent residency in Colombia due to: having renounced Colombian nationality; being the parent of a Colombian national by birth; accumulated time of permanence; foreign direct investment. Migrant Visa (type M): for the foreigner who wishes to enter or remain in the national territory with the intention of establishing himself/herself and does not meet the conditions for a type R visa. This visa may apply to people in the following condition: Spouse or permanent companion of Colombian national; parent or child of Colombian national by adoption; migrant under the Mercosur Agreement; a refugee; job; businessperson; practice a profession or independent activity; religious; elementary, middle, and undergraduate students; real estate investor; retiree or landlord.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 1, 2018 16:03:40 GMT -5
Elex, does your Canadian credit card pay in Colombian Pesos? My USA Citibank debit card doesn't, just USD
That means Migración accepts credit cards but no debit cards.
Visa applications have to be paid at an assigned local bank though.
It is also possible now to pay online through PSE.
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 2, 2018 22:01:07 GMT -5
Elex, does your Canadian credit card pay in Colombian Pesos? My USA Citibank debit card doesn't, just USD
That means Migración accepts credit cards but no debit cards.
Visa applications have to be paid at an assigned local bank though.
Not sure about what your question is.I can Use my cc anywhere in the World and of course they get a cut based on the exchange rate. But thats a whole different discusión and thread de had previously.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 6, 2018 15:40:42 GMT -5
I just completed my visa application online through the link I provided in the OP.
It was fairly straight forward and I have to admit I am very impressed with the improvements in the process. I would suggest to anyone applying online that you first read and comprehend all the written instructions and get all you documents ready in your computer files before starting the application.
I was also able to pay the initial application fee online through PSE. You can do this if you have a Colombian bank account.
Now I have to wait 5 working days to see if they accept my application.
All done from the comfort of my desk at home. No lawyers and no trip to Bogota.
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 6, 2018 19:26:55 GMT -5
I just completed my visa application online through the link I provided in the OP. It was fairly straight forward and I have to admit I am very impressed with the improvements in the process. I would suggest to anyone applying online that you first read and comprehend all the written instructions and get all you documents ready in your computer files before starting the application. I was also able to pay the initial application fee online through PSE. You can do this if you have a Colombian bank account. Now I have to wait 5 working days to see if they accept my application. All done from the comfort of my desk at home. No lawyers and no trip to Bogota. So how are they going to put the visa in your passport? By teleportation like on Star Trek? You will be taking at least 2 trips to Bogota before you get your visa and cedula. My guess is 3.
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Post by sedelen on Dec 6, 2018 20:06:07 GMT -5
Elex, does your Canadian credit card pay in Colombian Pesos? My USA Citibank debit card doesn't, just USD
That means Migración accepts credit cards but no debit cards.
Visa applications have to be paid at an assigned local bank though.
I've used a Discover credit card and a Wells Fargo Debit or Charles Schwab debit card.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 6, 2018 20:09:08 GMT -5
Attention elexpatriadoFrom the link in the OP: 8. How do I receive my Colombian visa? Once your visa has been approved, it will be sent to the email you registered at the time of application.Your visa could also be stamped at the Consulate of Colombia where you filed your application or at the Office in Bogotá at Avenida 19 No. 98-03, Edificio Torre 100.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 6, 2018 20:13:21 GMT -5
Elex, does your Canadian credit card pay in Colombian Pesos? My USA Citibank debit card doesn't, just USD
That means Migración accepts credit cards but no debit cards.
Visa applications have to be paid at an assigned local bank though.
I paid online (through PSE) with a Bancolombia debit card.
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Post by caliorbust on Dec 6, 2018 23:26:53 GMT -5
What is the procedure to get a PSE account?
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Post by tubes on Dec 7, 2018 8:14:14 GMT -5
To set up a PSE you just ask your bank and they give you a little password (which you can change at will). When you come to pay on a site, you select your bank from the list, enter your name and the password. Done.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 7, 2018 8:21:45 GMT -5
What is the procedure to get a PSE account? All you need is a Colombian bank account. If you follow the procedures on any website that allows payment on line e.g. MRE, Migracion, electricity supply company. internet, phone etc. you will see the option to pay using PSE ........ just look for the PSE logo and click on it ......... then follow your nose.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 7, 2018 8:25:16 GMT -5
To set up a PSE you just ask your bank and they give you a little password (which you can change at will). When you come to pay on a site, you select your bank from the list, enter your name and the password. Done. Bancolombia sends me a 'dynamic pin' via a text message on my cell phone. The system of authorizing the transaction will vary from bank to bank. After the transaction I get an email from both my bank and PSE with confirmation that the transaction was successful.
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Post by barrumundi on Dec 7, 2018 8:36:58 GMT -5
I just completed my visa application online through the link I provided in the OP. You will be taking at least 2 trips to Bogota before you get your visa and cedula. My guess is 3. After I receive my new visa (by email) I will do an online application for my new cedula online also: migracioncolombia.gov.co/index.php/es/tramites-2016/3281-tramite-cedula-de-extranjeriaI can also pay online and book an appointment to collect my cedula in Bogota. So all up for both visa and cedula is only one visit to Bogota.
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Post by Luther Blissett on Dec 7, 2018 11:39:27 GMT -5
You are becoming a bitter old man Elex. Your woman must feel miserable.
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 7, 2018 12:05:51 GMT -5
So you are gonna use crazy glue to fix the Visa to your passport? I looked at mine and it is a very high tech professional pasting process. Also, they stamp the passport with the Cedula number when they register it. On a separate page from the visa. So I dont know how thety are going to do that without you going down there. Then there is a 10 day wait for cedula to arrive.. Also, did you use a government registered official Colombian Translator to translate your supporting documents to Spanish? Thats what they have called for inthe past. Didnt know there were officially registered translators in Pacho. I still doubt they are gonna send you your visa. If they would do that they would send you the cedula as well. And in the off chance this does happened, hope they use servientrega and not send it through the mail system.
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 7, 2018 12:08:05 GMT -5
I did that form as well. You have to present it with your passport with the cedula number stamp at the Migraciones office, then pay your fee, and then you wait another 10 days to pick u the cedula.
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 7, 2018 12:10:11 GMT -5
You are becoming a bitter old man Elex. Your woman must feel miserable. She tells me she is quite happy. Maybe she is lieing. I have always been saercastic. Even when I was 18 Actually , now I just reserve it for my online persona
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 7, 2018 12:12:15 GMT -5
What is the procedure to get a PSE account? All you need is a Colombian bank account. If you follow the procedures on any website that allows payment on line e.g. MRE, Migracion, electricity supply company. internet, phone etc. you will see the option to pay using PSE ........ just look for the PSE logo and click on it ......... then follow your nose. THey should have a system using foreign CCs who needs a Colombian bank account. Waste of time and money
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 7, 2018 12:29:56 GMT -5
More questions- did you have to have your original passport photocopies and proof of income documents and officially translated versions stamped "True and Authentic" in a Notaria before sending them to Bogota?
All my documents in Canada had to be stamped by a notary there, plus authenticated at the Colombian consulate . and then I think my lawyer did the same thing in a notaria with the originals and all the translated documents- including translation of the Canadian notaries stam- and every word on the Passport Bio page.
I think they use tha apostile system for US documents authenticated in the US, so the US portion is different.
But your from Australia so I dont know if they are part of the Hague convention for Apostillization of documents
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Post by caliorbust on Dec 7, 2018 13:52:00 GMT -5
All you need is a Colombian bank account. If you follow the procedures on any website that allows payment on line e.g. MRE, Migracion, electricity supply company. internet, phone etc. you will see the option to pay using PSE ........ just look for the PSE logo and click on it ......... then follow your nose. THey should have a system using foreign CCs who needs a Colombian bank account. Waste of time and money My Colombian bank account sure came handy when I needed to park pesos during the height of the US dollar exchange.
I've got to get on the PSE system. When I tried to order online tickets with Satena they wouldn't take my US debit card and the other two choices where PSE or Colombian bank account withdrawal, but for that a second one time password was required, called 'Clave Dinámica' of which you will get a different one each time on your cell phone and I wasn't set up for either one. We ended up having family buy tickets at Puerto Asis airport to get the discount price just on time. In Cali they charged quite a bit more. Satena has 4 different prices for the same flight and the lowest price sells very fast.
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Post by elexpatriado on Dec 7, 2018 14:18:05 GMT -5
Yep, Colombian Airlines are very regressive when accepting foreign cards But Expedia offers the tickets for virtually the same price as purchasing directly. And now they are starting to offer the bargain Airlines as well.
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