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Post by barrumundi on Nov 27, 2018 20:14:06 GMT -5
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Post by makopp5 on Nov 28, 2018 8:54:26 GMT -5
You want to help Adriaan to get a new visa?
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Post by barrumundi on Nov 28, 2018 9:09:12 GMT -5
makopp5 No ........ I want to help ME get a new visa. My visa was cancelled and my cedula expired. What comes first? Should I first renew the cedula and then the visa or the other way around .......... or maybe it doesn't matter?
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Post by makopp5 on Nov 28, 2018 9:21:20 GMT -5
Without visa you can not get a cédula extrangeria.
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Post by ozgringo on Nov 28, 2018 9:24:19 GMT -5
There is a time limit from when you get your visa and applying for you cedula.
I remember i got fined for being a few days late.
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Post by barrumundi on Nov 28, 2018 10:46:37 GMT -5
Got it! Thanks guys.
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 29, 2018 10:30:54 GMT -5
Got it! Thanks guys.Man..you have a lot to learn..cedula befor the visa? First get the idea of getting your visa online out of your head. You have tp physically get your paperwork and passport to Bogota. You desperately need a good agent or Lawyer to help you
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 29, 2018 10:31:53 GMT -5
There is a time limit from when you get your visa and applying for you cedula. I remember i got fined for being a few days late. 15 working days
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 29, 2018 10:34:52 GMT -5
First concentrate on getting the visa and then the cedula
Also , I dont know what your physical ties are to Colombia, if you are in the country less than 183 days, there is absolutely no reason to get a visa or cedula
Despite what others say , you can do anything with your passport, if you just look around
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Post by barrumundi on Nov 29, 2018 12:15:09 GMT -5
You desperately need a good agent or Lawyer to help you You are the one that doesn't have a clue elexpatriado. In the last 45 years of travelling the globe I have been doing all the applications for all visas for myself and my family and have NEVER even considered using a lawyer or agent. I have had a very good success rate. The only one I didn't get was for an adult step-son to visit Australia. He didn't have a job, didn't own anything and wasn't married or with kids. He got knocked back because he had no proof that he would return to Colombia at the end of his visa (same as with USA).
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Post by gallito on Nov 29, 2018 12:52:09 GMT -5
"Hire a good agent or lawyer" why anyone would hire a bottom feeder to process paperwork is beyond me.Come to think of it this is common in Colombia,seemingly many are to lazy to do things on their own or simply ignorant of the process. Now if you're in a pickle a palanca,office official who can facilitate getting a visa may be worth the serrucha.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:59:11 GMT -5
"Hire a good agent or lawyer" why anyone would hire a bottom feeder to process paperwork is beyond me.Come to think of it this is common in Colombia,seemingly many are to lazy to do things on their own or simply ignorant of the process. Now if you're in a pickle a palanca,office official who can facilitate getting a visa may be worth the serrucha. ELEX lives in a weird place in an altered reality.. I agree there is no need for a lawyer for a rather mundane task.
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Post by gallito on Nov 29, 2018 13:00:54 GMT -5
barrumundi if your present tourist visa is expiring you should extent it as soon as possible.Xmas holidays are comming,it's hard to get anything done when Colombians are in fiesta-mode.
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Post by pilotguy68 on Nov 29, 2018 13:06:48 GMT -5
I think it might depend on your available time and how you want to spend it. I did not travel, I did nothing but send docs to lawyer and got back my visa and new passport as a matter of fact. This country is mysterious at best, I do not care to risk my visa. Anyway, my opinion and that is what much of the proceeding comments are. joe
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 29, 2018 17:29:40 GMT -5
You are the one that doesn't have a clue elexpatriado. In the last 45 years of travelling the globe I have been doing all the applications for all visas for myself and my family and have NEVER even considered using a lawyer or agent. I have had a very good success rate. The only one I didn't get was for an adult step-son to visit Australia. He didn't have a job, didn't own anything and wasn't married or with kids. He got knocked back because he had no proof that he would return to Colombia at the end of his visa (same as with USA). Well regardless you have no clue on the Colombia visa at this point in time. Getting a Colombia visa is not like getting a visa for Australia or Canadá.I handled the TRP visa for a Colombiana ex myself cuz lawyers in Canada are cluelesss and it costs you 5 times as much as Colombia.You have to go to Bogota, and the cost of getting a lawyer or agent to do it for you is far less than doing it yourself and travelling there. I wouldnt want to send my pasaporte by Servientrega and rely on the Colombian Migraciones not to.loose it.
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 29, 2018 17:42:45 GMT -5
"Hire a good agent or lawyer" why anyone would hire a bottom feeder to process paperwork is beyond me.Come to think of it this is common in Colombia,seemingly many are to lazy to do things on their own or simply ignorant of the process. Now if you're in a pickle a palanca,office official who can facilitate getting a visa may be worth the serrucha. "Hire a good agent or lawyer" why anyone would hire a bottom feeder to process paperwork is beyond me.Come to think of it this is common in Colombia,seemingly many are to lazy to do things on their own or simply ignorant of the process. Now if you're in a pickle a palanca,office official who can facilitate getting a visa may be worth the serrucha. ELEX lives in a weird place in an altered reality.. I agree there is no need for a lawyer for a rather mundane task. Ir cost you 600 mil net for the lawyer or agent, facilitator, whatever you wanna call them.. If you live in Bogota ok..do it yourself...if you live soewhere else you.might save 200 mil if you travelled by bus 8 hours both ways and stayed in a hostel. My time and QUALITY of life is more importante than a few sheckels And I hate lawyers more than anyone Besides you (Gallito) dont live in Colombia. When was the last time you got a visa? obviously you are the cluelesss one With all due respect
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Post by caliorbust on Nov 29, 2018 17:42:57 GMT -5
First of all for a retirement or cónyuge visa I would get an annual retirement income statement from the country that pays my retirement. Required is a monthly income of three times the minimum wage. That statement needs to be apostilled in said country which pays the retirement by an apostille service. Then the apostilled document needs to be translated into Spanish by a certified translator approved by Colombia Migration (they have a list). In the meantime I would download the on-line application and return it: tramitesmre.cancilleria.gov.co/tramites/enlinea/solicitarVisa.xhtmlThere is also an application fee involved that needs to be paid at an assigned bank before returning the application but the actual visa fee is much larger. An attorney is not needed in Barru's case, he just needs to renew his visa, nothing complicated. I wouldn't overstay my 90 days granted at entry unless I got an extension as fines are extensive. Myself I always used a visa facilitator who did all the work and gave him a power of attorney signed in the Notaria so I wouldn't have to travel to Bogotá to pick up my visa. Their fees are about 500.000 pesos.
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 29, 2018 17:45:50 GMT -5
First of all for a retirement or cónyuge visa I would get an annual retirement income statement from the country that pays my retirement. Required is a monthly income of three times the minimum wage. That statement needs to be apostilled in said country which pays the retirement by an apostille service. Then the apostilled document needs to be translated into Spanish by a certified translator approved by Colombia Migration (they have a list). In the meantime I would download the on-line application and return it: tramitesmre.cancilleria.gov.co/tramites/enlinea/solicitarVisa.xhtmlThere is also an application fee involved that needs to be paid at an assigned bank before returning the application but the actual visa fee is much larger. An attorney is not needed in Barru's case, he just needs to renew his visa, nothing complicated. I wouldn't overstay my 90 days granted at entry unless I got an extension as fines are extensive. Myself I always used a visa facilitator who did all the work and gave him a power of attorney signed in the Notaria so I wouldn't have to travel to Bogotá to pick up my visa. Their fees are about 500.000 pesos. Still has to go to Bogota.
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 29, 2018 18:16:47 GMT -5
First of all for a retirement or cónyuge visa I would get an annual retirement income statement from the country that pays my retirement. Required is a monthly income of three times the minimum wage. That statement needs to be apostilled in said country which pays the retirement by an apostille service. Then the apostilled document needs to be translated into Spanish by a certified translator approved by Colombia Migration (they have a list). In the meantime I would download the on-line application and return it: tramitesmre.cancilleria.gov.co/tramites/enlinea/solicitarVisa.xhtmlThere is also an application fee involved that needs to be paid at an assigned bank before returning the application but the actual visa fee is much larger. An attorney is not needed in Barru's case, he just needs to renew his visa, nothing complicated. I wouldn't overstay my 90 days granted at entry unless I got an extension as fines are extensive. Myself I always used a visa facilitator who did all the work and gave him a power of attorney signed in the Notaria so I wouldn't have to travel to Bogotá to pick up my visa. Their fees are about 500.000 pesos. Still has to go to Bogota. Facilatator or or lawyer or agent whatever you wanna call them.. the price is the same. Net to them is around 500 to 600 K. You provide all the documents , all they do is translate, and send it by courier to Bogota (a good one might advise you on the fine details of your documents-i.e. what is required for a marriage or common law visa, a Pensionada visa (letter from Public employer in your home country stating 3 times salario minima) or Rentista Visa ( can be from non-public source and I believe confirming 11 times salario minimum) Note- they change the rules every year. They also have a representative in Bogota pay the visa fee (several hundred dollars) make sure it gets through the visa process and gets back on the courier to your local.lawyer or agent (basically babysit the process like you would have to do in Bogota) . Another thing ot takes several working days in migraciiones office in Bogota to process the visa and put the stamp it. That would mean you would have to stay several days or make two trips. Makes sense hiring someon to take care of the process for you. Once you get the visa inside your passport returnred to you, the Agent (lawyer , facilitator) work ends you have 15 working days to get it registered in the local Migraciones office where you live. You also do this part on your own. There is now a form to be filled out online to recieve your cedula. You should fill this out before you go to the migrations office. When you present the form , with your passport , you have to pay another fee (100 to 200 K COP-I cant remember) at the migraciones office where you get your cedula in the city where you live. They will then process the data. and make any corrections on the computer, take your picture, and put the visa registration number (which is the same as your cedula) with a stamp in your passport. You will then have about another 10 days before your cedula arrives, You can check the status online if it has arrived. You then go back to the office to pick up your cedula. The good news is, Visas and Cedulas now good for 3 years. Depending on where your local migrations office is, there might be a long wait to get your vias registered and cedula processed-i.e in the Medellin office, because there could be uop to 2o people waiting in the waiting room. Manizales in comparison was a peice of cake. .
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Post by wildstubby on Nov 29, 2018 21:36:46 GMT -5
I think all this hubbub is moot. If I understand barrumundi, he got what he needed without a visa lawyer. gallito, I like your photo!
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Post by gallito on Nov 29, 2018 22:15:08 GMT -5
I think all this hubbub is moot. If I understand barrumundi , he got what he needed without a visa lawyer. gallito , I like your photo! Yeah if you look way back I was the one who posted it 🍻😉
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Post by caliorbust on Nov 30, 2018 9:01:00 GMT -5
If anyone ever runs into a situation where he run out of time to process a visa during his 6 months allowed stay in the country there is a little known solution to avoid heavy penalties for overstaying. The local Migration Office will give you a 'Salvoconducto para 30 días', so you'll have an additional month to remain in country legally in case you're waiting for an Apostille from your home country or for whatever reason. The cost is about 80 mil. But a requirement is that you initiated the visa process with an application and the 'estudio' fee being paid.
They want to see a copy. Elex, your statement 'Still has to go to Bogotá' doesn't make sense. It applies only for a first time visa applicant where they take a long look at you if they want you in the country or not, lol.
Not sure if the new Medellin Migration office can handle that. But for visa renewals they already have a record of you and facilitators which in reality are Third World Paralegals normally have a contact in Bogotá who will need your 'Poder' from the Notary (Power of attorney) to process your visa. I would be careful who to choose as facilitator so they don't run off with your money or lose your passport, the Migration Office usually has several recommendations. Using an attorney would be my last resort, besides for 600 mil few of them would even pick up the phone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 9:12:00 GMT -5
I think all this hubbub is moot. If I understand barrumundi , he got what he needed without a visa lawyer. gallito , I like your photo! Wild, I agree. Actually the most entertaining thing about this thread is watching Elex work the room to make friends and influence people. Practicing theses skills are important if you aspire to keeping a young honey on your arm..
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 10:20:25 GMT -5
I think all this hubbub is moot. If I understand barrumundi , he got what he needed without a visa lawyer. gallito , I like your photo! Another guy that comes here only a few weeks ayear with his opinion. Clearly he has not since it is a several week process from statrt to finish to get your visa and cedula, and you, or someone..like Isaid..Lawyer, Facilitator, Monkey, Agent, Bozo the clown..has tio get the visa and paperwork to Bogota and babysit the process I have done it 6 times. How many times have you done it? Sheesh..like talking to the wall
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 10:23:50 GMT -5
If anyone ever runs into a situation where he run out of time to process a visa during his 6 months allowed stay in the country there is a little known solution to avoid heavy penalties for overstaying. The local Migration Office will give you a 'Salvoconducto para 30 días', so you'll have an additional month to remain in country legally in case you're waiting for an Apostille from your home country or for whatever reason. The cost is about 80 mil. But a requirement is that you initiated the visa process with an application and the 'estudio' fee being paid.
They want to see a copy. Elex, your statement 'Still has to go to Bogotá' doesn't make sense. It applies only for a first time visa applicant where they take a long look at you if they want you in the country or not, lol.
Not sure if the new Medellin Migration office can handle that. But for visa renewals they already have a record of you and facilitators which in reality are Third World Paralegals normally have a contact in Bogotá who will need your 'Poder' from the Notary (Power of attorney) to process your visa. I would be careful who to choose as facilitator so they don't run off with your money or lose your passport, the Migration Office usually has several recommendations. Using an attorney would be my last resort, besides for 600 mil few of them would even pick up the phone. Your facilitaor still has to have someone in Bogota,. Anyway, you use a facilitator,, Some people think you can do it online and they send the Visa to you and put it in your passport or something similar. It just doesnt work that way. You use a facilitator.Costs 500 mil net. Myself and friends use a lawyer we trust . 600 mil. Whats the difference? Also, they change the rules and fees every year. Dont care , who gives a foch Barrumundi can send his passport by Servientregga and phone migraciones everyday and hope they got it and the courier didnt lose it. Save 500 or 600 mil. Enough said
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 10:34:54 GMT -5
I think all this hubbub is moot. If I understand barrumundi , he got what he needed without a visa lawyer. gallito , I like your photo! Wild, I agree. Actually the most entertaining thing about this thread is watching Elex work the room to make friends and influence people. Practicing theses skills are important if you aspire to keeping a young honey on your arm.. Obviously just chiming in to P1ss me off. You live, here, why dont you provide input on actual experience like Caliiorbust (who incidently is saying EXACTLY the same as I am , with only slight nuance, using the the word "Lawyer" vss. "facilitator"..who are doing exactly the same thing for a similar price) and JoeNancy does instead of just chiming in with the snarky remarks. I realize I was undiplomatic in my initial response to Brru, but he does have a lot to learn on this subject, maybe he si learning by now
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 11:00:25 GMT -5
Barry my apology for being undiplomatic
You are in Cartagena right?
If you decide to use a facilitator you will have to go on another site for references because this site has no one living permanently in Cartagena
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Post by barrumundi on Nov 30, 2018 11:27:46 GMT -5
elexpatriado for a guy who advocates not needing or getting a visa or a cedula ........ you sure seem to know a lot about the process. I live in Pacho (common knowledge) which is about 1.5 hours from Bogota. I have family and friends in Bogota that I can stay with (if I need to) and I also can catch a ride with other family members that travel to Bogota regularly on business. It is not an issue for me to travel to Bogota or stay there a couple of days ........ but thanks for your concern. Thank you also for the apology although it really wasn't necessary. Most of the regulars on here will know and understand that this is just your normal cyber persona.
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 11:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by elexpatriado on Nov 30, 2018 11:41:39 GMT -5
elexpatriado for a guy who advocates not needing or getting a visa or a cedula ........ you sure seem to know a lot about the process. I live in Pacho (common knowledge) which is about 1.5 hours from Bogota. I have family and friends in Bogota that I can stay with (if I need to) and I also can catch a ride with other family members that travel to Bogota regularly on business. It is not an issue for me to travel to Bogota or stay there a couple of days ........ but thanks for your concern. Thank you also for the apology although it really wasn't necessary. Most of the regulars on here will know and understand that this is just your normal cyber persona. Okay, then you dont need a Facilitator or nothing. If you live in Bogota, not just the bit of money saved , but you get to know the part of the process we who live far outside Bogota are not familiar with-the part that occurs in the Visa office in Bogota Best of luck If you have any more questions I will try to answer them diplomatically I am wasting too much time onthese sites and internet in general though, Missed my Yoga and dance clases today (Dance clases because I wnt being proactive in communication)
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